Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #196
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Date:     Mon, 11 Oct 93 13:27:25 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #196, Volume #1                Mon, 11 Oct 93 13:27:25 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux Magazine (Erik Stenvall)
  Re: SCSI adapter for linux? (Keith Hollister)
  Re: Veteran Linux user's praise..... (Ian Wells)
  Why only compressed kernels? (Scott Telford)
  Re: Bogomip (Joost Helberg)
  Re: Why only compressed kernels? (Byron Faber)
  Kernel .99.13 and sig 11's (Byron Faber)
  Re: Linux Magazine [how much work?] (Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse)
  Re: Bogomip (Jussi Mika Antero Lahtinen)
  Re: Bogomip (Bonne van Dijk)
  Term and more Term (Michael K Patterson)
  Don't need BogoMips (Marko Klein)
  Kernel Panic: swaper problems (HELP) (Yosry Morsi)
  xspread: Seg. Fault with modegen (Roland Meier)
  Re: Anybody used an ISA memory card with Linux? (Steef S.G. de Bruijn)
  JANA-CD where is it? (Mark A. Horton)
  CANNOT OPEN A XTERM UNDER X11 (belmouh@idefix.ensmp.fr (Rachid BELMOUHOUB ))
  Re: Linux counter passes 2000 entries (Alan Cox)
  Re: Linux magazine now accepting articles... (Alan Cox)
  Re: Why only compressed kernels? ("Brian E. Gallew")
  Re: Linux counter passes 2000 entries (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: emacs 19 DOC file? (David S. Fox)
  Re: Don't need BogoMips (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: SCSI adapter for linux? (Eckehard Stolz)
  Re: Why only compressed kernels? (W. Alan Krueger)
  Re: Why only compressed kernels? (Ahmon Dancy)

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From: d0ess@dtek.chalmers.se (Erik Stenvall)
Subject: Re: Linux Magazine
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 10:39:30 GMT

zzassgl@gl.mcc.ac.uk () writes:

>Sreekar Shastry (sreekar@panix.com) wrote:
>: >>>>> On Fri, 8 Oct 1993 11:12:55 GMT, zzassgl@gl.mcc.ac.uk () said:

>: Geoff> and a nice VGA based reader program developed?

>: It already exists, its called xdvi.  

>Doesn't xdvi require X windows?  Some people don't run X windows.

One can use 'dvips' to create a PS-file and then use gs (which have a
vga-driver) to look at it.

/Ess
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From: keith@ursa.com (Keith Hollister)
Subject: Re: SCSI adapter for linux?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 10:55:56 GMT

In article <29a7d1$p06@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> davidn@cs.tamu.edu (David E  
Nichols) writes:
> In article <CEo8u4.1vE@frobozz.sccsi.com>,
> Kevin Brown <kevin@frobozz.sccsi.com> wrote:
> >In article <9BWHB83@oytix.north.de> mike@oytix.north.de (Mike  
Fleischer) writes:
> >Interesting.  I'm seeing this kind of thing as well, with 0.99.10,  
Bustek
> >542B, Maxtor XT-4380 (I think), a couple of Seagate ST-2xx drives, and  
a
> >Fujitsu M2511 magneto-optical drive.  I didn't see this at all until I
> >added the Fujitsu.
> >
> >The problem happens even when I'm not accessing the Fujitsu.  It  
happened,
> >for instance, when I was recompiling the kernel.
> >
> >Basically, the system will hang, with the computer's hard-disk light on
> >solid (which indicates to me that the SCSI bus is hung).  I'm using  
SCSI
> >only, so there's no other controller which affects this light.
> 
> I am having the exact same problem here- I added a Fujitsu M2511A
> 128Meg MO drive to my Ultrastor 14f+Texel 3024 (v.1.10) combination,
> and all of the sudden I am having tons of SCSI problems with Linux. 
> details deleted.

The NeXT community has had problems using this drive also. It appears that  
it might be "you get what you pay for" when it comes to MO drives. Too  
bad, I have been eyeing this baby too, but was scared off originally by  
the NeXTSTEP problems (I also have a NeXT).

Keith Hollister
keith@ursa.com

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From: ijw@bob.cambustion.co.uk (Ian Wells)
Subject: Re: Veteran Linux user's praise.....
Date: 11 Oct 1993 13:06:01 GMT

In article <1993Oct9.131755.2225@ivax> trwills@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
   Just wanted to give my late coming praise to linus and the 
   crew, from a linux user from .12. You all keep up the good work,
   "we have come a LONG way baby"!

I got linux from 0,10.  So ner. 8-)

As far as the praise goes, I agree.  It was plenty good enough, for an
ex-Minix user, then; it's a hell of a lot better now...

Ian.

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From: st@epcc.ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Subject: Why only compressed kernels?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 12:37:30 GMT

I've just upgraded from 0.99.10 to 0.99.13 and I notice that
uncompressed kernels are no longer supported in the kernel Makefile. I
can see compressed kernels are very handy for boot floppies, but why
have uncompressed kernels been dropped altogether, especially as it
prevents you from doing things like "strings /vmlinux" etc.? Is the
kernel size getting too close to the 640k limit? Can somebody
enlighten me?

Yours, perplexed,
-- 
Scott Telford, Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre,        <s.telford@ed.ac.uk>
University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. (+44 31 650 5978)
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From: jhelberg@nlsun8.oracle.nl (Joost Helberg)
Subject: Re: Bogomip
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 12:27:17 GMT

In article <CEKz9D.MC@scrum.greenie.muc.de> root@scrum.greenie.muc.de writes:
   choltje@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Holtje) writes:

   >>>>>>Two more datapoints:
   >>>>>>486DX-33 -----> 16.5 bogomips
   >>>>>>486DLC-33 -----> 11.2 bogomips   (Cyrix cross between 386 and 486)
   >>>>>386DX-25  --> 3.91 BogoMips(tm).
   >>>>386DX-33/387DX-33 --> 6.03 BogoMips(tm)
   >>> 486DX66/2 --> 34.06 BogoMips (tm)
   >>386DX40   ---> 6.99 BogoMips (tm)
   >486DX50/2  ---> 25.0 BogoMips (tm)
   486SX25  ---> 12.24 BogoMips (tm)
386-20 --> 1.67 BogoMips (tm)
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From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron Faber)
Subject: Re: Why only compressed kernels?
Date: 11 Oct 1993 13:39:55 GMT

st@epcc.ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford) writes:

>I've just upgraded from 0.99.10 to 0.99.13 and I notice that
>uncompressed kernels are no longer supported in the kernel Makefile. I
>can see compressed kernels are very handy for boot floppies, but why
>have uncompressed kernels been dropped altogether, especially as it
>prevents you from doing things like "strings /vmlinux" etc.? Is the
>kernel size getting too close to the 640k limit? Can somebody
>enlighten me?

>Yours, perplexed,
>-- 
>Scott Telford, Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre,        <s.telford@ed.ac.uk>
>University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. (+44 31 650 5978)
>-- "We do want to tour again, we will tour again" - Kate Bush, Munich, 1980. --


Ya... I'd like to know the same to.

Byron
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From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron Faber)
Subject: Kernel .99.13 and sig 11's
Date: 11 Oct 1993 13:45:19 GMT

Does anybody else here get sig11s more often with certain kernels?

I upgraded from pl10 to pl13 and in the process noticed that the number
of signal 11's I get has gone down alot.  

Does anybody else get these, or do I have a bad memory chip somewhere?

Linux running on:
MCC linux v. .99.10+
386Dx/40  NO 387   :(
8 meg Simm memory,
Tseng4000
Gateway monitor (1024NI)

Byron.

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From: spel@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse)
Subject: Re: Linux Magazine [how much work?]
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 06:04:37 GMT

And there is the newsleter macro package somewhere around.

el
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From: jmalahti@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jussi Mika Antero Lahtinen)
Subject: Re: Bogomip
Date: 11 Oct 1993 15:54:14 +0200

In <JHELBERG.93Oct11132717@nlsun8.oracle.nl> jhelberg@nlsun8.oracle.nl (Joost Helberg) writes:

>In article <CEKz9D.MC@scrum.greenie.muc.de> root@scrum.greenie.muc.de writes:
>   choltje@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Holtje) writes:

>   >>>>>>Two more datapoints:
>   >>>>>>486DX-33 -----> 16.5 bogomips
>   >>>>>>486DLC-33 -----> 11.2 bogomips   (Cyrix cross between 386 and 486)
>   >>>>>386DX-25  --> 3.91 BogoMips(tm).
>   >>>>386DX-33/387DX-33 --> 6.03 BogoMips(tm)
>   >>> 486DX66/2 --> 34.06 BogoMips (tm)
>   >>386DX40   ---> 6.99 BogoMips (tm)
>   >486DX50/2  ---> 25.0 BogoMips (tm)
>   486SX25  ---> 12.24 BogoMips (tm)
>386-20 --> 1.67 BogoMips (tm)

386DX-25 + 32KB cache --> 4.53 BogoMips (tm)

J.L.


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From: bonne@cs.utwente.nl (Bonne van Dijk)
Subject: Re: Bogomip
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 13:38:17 GMT

In article <JHELBERG.93Oct11132717@nlsun8.oracle.nl>, jhelberg@nlsun8.oracle.nl (Joost Helberg) writes:
|> In article <CEKz9D.MC@scrum.greenie.muc.de> root@scrum.greenie.muc.de writes:
|>    choltje@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Holtje) writes:
|> 
|>    >>>>>>Two more datapoints:
|>    >>>>>>486DX-33 -----> 16.5 bogomips
|>    >>>>>>486DLC-33 -----> 11.2 bogomips   (Cyrix cross between 386 and 486)
|>    >>>>>386DX-25  --> 3.91 BogoMips(tm).
|>    >>>>386DX-33/387DX-33 --> 6.03 BogoMips(tm)
|>    >>> 486DX66/2 --> 34.06 BogoMips (tm)
|>    >>386DX40   ---> 6.99 BogoMips (tm)
|>    >486DX50/2  ---> 25.0 BogoMips (tm)
|>    486SX25  ---> 12.24 BogoMips (tm)
|> 386-20 --> 1.67 BogoMips (tm)
386DX40 8Mb --> 7.29 BogoMips
|> --

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|>    jhelberg@oracle.nl                         NL-3454 PV De Meern
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|> 
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|>    Phone: +31 3406 94211                      Fax:   +31 3406 65609

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From: mikep@iastate.edu (Michael K Patterson)
Subject: Term and more Term
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 14:13:35 GMT

Thanks to all those who responded to my last post. The
solution was to set my TERMDIR to /tmp. This was due to
a conflict with AFS (andrew filesystem) here at ISU. 
Much thanks to jahoward. 

A few problems I'm still having though: 

Anytime I go into xwindows, I can't use my modem. It 
shows the sure signs of an IRQ conflict (you can dial,
but you can't send or recieve characters). I can set
the IRQ for my modem, but I can't find where in Linux to
change the IRQ Linux uses... Any suggestions?

WHen using tredir to allow people to connect to my machine
vai the telnet port (like: tredir 4100 23 on the remote
machine), people try to connect and it disconnects them. 
I assume this is because I don't ahve telnetd/tcpd/etc 
running, but they don't seem to want to run. (telnetd gives
a "bad file number" error)

Any help on either of these subjects would be most helpful. 
Thanks in advance,

        Mike Patterson (mikep@iastate.edu)


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From: klein@informatik.uni-rostock.de (Marko Klein)
Subject: Don't need BogoMips
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 11:32:05 GMT

I have installed SLS 1.03 now and found the kernel computing BogoMips.
I was not so happy about seeing that a benchmark is calculatet every time
I boot linux because it's a waste of time (not too much but time is money).
I have commentet out the parts of source defining this and everything works
great. That sounds well and somebody could ask "Why is he telling us this ?"
Well, I wanted to say, that I'd liked it if it would be possible to
disable BogoMips via 'make config' in future versions.

Ok, that's all folks. Bye.

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From: morsi@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Yosry Morsi)
Subject: Kernel Panic: swaper problems (HELP)
Date: 11 Oct 1993 14:36:25 GMT


Hello people,
 
I have run into a the same kernel panic for quite a while now, and I am
getting very frustrated.
 
I am using SLS 1.03 on a 386DX-33 with 8 Mb RAM.
The kernel tells me the following:
 
  Unable to handle kernel paging request at adress c0ffffff
  Oops:0000
  EIP 0010:00130A67
  EFLAGS: 00010202
  eax: 00ffffff   ebx: 0062045e   ecx: 0000ee93   edx: 0062055e
  esi: 00620400   edi: 00000040   ebp: 00620500   
  ds: 0018   es: 0018  fs:002b    gs:002b
  Pid:0,  process nr: 0
  8b 00 89 43 08 66 83 7a 02 00
  task[0] (swaper) killed: unable to recover
  kernel panic: try to free up swaper memory
  In swapper task - not syncing
 
 any one here that could help me


 Thanks in advance,
 Yosry

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 Fax. 0931 / 888-4600                           97074 Wuerzburg

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From: meier@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Roland Meier)
Subject: xspread: Seg. Fault with modegen
Date: 11 Oct 1993 14:45:43 GMT

Does anybody know why xspread quits with a segmentation Fault when loading
modegen?.sc, the spreadsheet distributed with SLS used for calculating video
modes which loads flawlessly into sc ?

I use SLS 1.03, and modegen[12].sc can be found in /usr/X386/lib/X11 .

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (Steef S.G. de Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Anybody used an ISA memory card with Linux?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 14:13:19 GMT

Eduardo Kaftanski (ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl) wrote:
:       I have tried with absolutely no success to use an Everex 159
: memory card with Linux. I got all kinds of Memory Fault errors, although
: I could use the card with DOS with no problem. I had Checkit test the
: board for a pair of hours with no errors... so at least it is not its
: fault I guess.

[ stuff deleted ]

Sorry, can't help you on this, but I can say I used an Everex 159
3 MB expansion board under kernels .99pl6, .99pl12 and .99pl13 now,
without any problems...

Have you checked the card under clean DOS with the ev159 program
shipped with the card? (If you don't have it, I could mail you a copy :-)
Have you set the card to be all extended memory?

Does the card behave well under DOS? Maybe you didn't configure it well
(overlapping memory sections or so [two pieces of memory using te same
address]), I dunno.

Hope this helps,
Steef
E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl


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From: mahmha@crl.com (Mark A. Horton)
Subject: JANA-CD where is it?
Date: 11 Oct 1993 08:20:35 -0700

Well, I bit and sent email to JANA to order the JANA-CD subscription last
week, even after seeing all the reports on the net about them.  I was
wrong.  According to the posting, they would be back to you in one day
from an email request - NOT! ; they have an 800 number (1.800.363.2083)
for orders and questions - NO ANSWER! ; they say "call me collect at 
home - 1.613.544.6020" - NO ONE HOME!

OK, so I was stupid and bit... has anyone , repeat ANYONE, seen a real
copy of this product or is it vapourware?  I'm just glad I didn't give
them a credit card number!  Somehow I suspect that would have resulted
in a "real" debit to my account!

Needless to say, I am a bit irritated with this situation.  If they have
no intention of selling a REAL product, they they shouldn't waste net
bandwidth and peoples' time with this foolishness.

I hope I'm wrong.

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P.O.Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747      ICBM: 33 45 N / 084 16 W
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                "=" has the meaning "may be confused with."  

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
From: belmouh@idefix.ensmp.fr (Rachid BELMOUHOUB <belmouh@cig.ensmp.fr>)
Subject: CANNOT OPEN A XTERM UNDER X11
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 14:44:06 GMT

Hi folks,

 first this my configuration:
 486DX50, 8Mb RAM, 210Mb HD, NEC 4FG monitor, NCR77C22E Video card (supported by
 XFree1.3). SLS 1.03 installed and runing LINUX 0.99Ppl12.

 I have tryed to run XFree with several means, but no way to have an xterm, the
 clocks and the modes are correctly seted up in Xconfig, as XFree supports my
 Video card and recognises it :

 1- startx, with twm ----> just a xclock and no way to have a xterm, if I try
    to change the modes with "Ctrl+Alt[+]" the two first ("800x600" "640x480")
    are normal but the third gives a strange screen instable it was just
    three small screens displayed on the monitor. The screen is unreadble after
    after exiting X11

 2- I tryed just "X :0", but I had the same problem no xterm, and the screen is 
    unreadble after exiting X11.

 3- When I tryed "Ctrl+Alt+F1" to change VC the screen became unreadble

 4- I tryed the same with XF86_MONO, no way to have a xterm but the screen was
    normal after exiting X11.

Is it a bug in the binaries or is there some thing wrong with the files I have??


 Any suggestion???

 thanks
 Rachid
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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Linux counter passes 2000 entries
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 15:34:06 GMT

In article <1993Oct8.210747.27162@midway.uchicago.edu> harris@cs.uchicago.edu (Adam Harris) writes:
>Interesting.  Actually, I'm not so clueful, I've never heard of COFF.
>Am I wrong is guessing that getting Unix-Native compatability
>(or just ability) is a much more robust solution than DOS &
>Windows emulators?  I mean, I'm not trying to attack these projects,
>they're key, for sure.  But on the other hand, it seems to me
>that emulators (or pseudo-emulators for DOSEMU) are *always* 
>*always* gonna break more than normal, well-written apps.
COFF is just a file format used by IBSC2 compliant binaries. Now the COFF
loader seems finished and the kernel has hooks for IBSC2 system calls but
I've not yet seen any sign of the IBSC2 emulation code. I guess its someones
quiet project from the rumours I pick up. Looking at it apart from shared
library options its not too evil a problem.
>For sure.  The lack of Linux apps certainly is the only thing
>prevent Linux installations from becoming stellar, thereby provoking
>a massive revolution, led by programmers and informations workers,
>where copywrites and intellectual ownership are sublated!!
Not likely. However it will help to people to discover GNU software.

Alan

iiitac@pyr.swan.ac.uk


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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Linux magazine now accepting articles...
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 15:39:32 GMT

In article <mvore.750188946@access> mvore@access.digex.net (Michael Vore) writes:
>derek@aivru.sheffield.ac.uk (Derek Jones) writes:
>>OK folks, I'm biting, - there seems to be enough interest! I am intending to
>>distribute via email and will provide one of the following formats:
>
>>Postscript:       (If you've got Linux, you've got gs and ghostview, I've
>
>What about us who don't have postscript printers. I have suffered thru gs 
>under Linux and MsDos only to find that it doesn't work!!  No I havn't 
>tried to hack it into submission.
gs works fine under Linux and MSDOS for me anyway. Besides you dont need to
worry about the postscript. You can write it with Ez (free), with a text
editor, in LaTex or nroff, and run it through the right formatters for your
printer tyhen when happy postscript it gzip it uuencode it and post it.
I'll use Ez.
>
>How about some good old plain - useful, compitable ASCII??  You probably 
>start from real, printable, readable, usable text - distribute that too!
Fine feed it through an ascii postscript convertor and mail him that 8-)

Alan



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From: "Brian E. Gallew" <geek+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Why only compressed kernels?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 12:01:06 -0400

btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron Faber) writes:
> st@epcc.ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford) writes:
> 
> >I've just upgraded from 0.99.10 to 0.99.13 and I notice that
> >uncompressed kernels are no longer supported in the kernel Makefile. I
> >can see compressed kernels are very handy for boot floppies, but why
> >have uncompressed kernels been dropped altogether, especially as it
> >prevents you from doing things like "strings /vmlinux" etc.? Is the
> >kernel size getting too close to the 640k limit? Can somebody
> >enlighten me?
Yep.

                                  -Brian

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From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Linux counter passes 2000 entries
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:09:09 GMT

bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:

>In article <1993Oct08.194735.12767@taylor.uucp> mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>>\___/  Yep, I do tend to sound like a broken record on that subject, sorry.
>>       It just would provide instant access to TONS of Unix software without
>>       all this hastle about trying to "convince" vendors to port their
>>       software to Linux (won't happen for most).

>I tried to mail Mark on this several times, but it always bounced...

My mail works great- just DON'T try to use your newsreader to send me email,
because it will try to send to mark@taylor.uucp instead of the correct
mark@taylor.wyvern.com address!  (Any suggestions?  I have not been able
to fix it).
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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David S. Fox)
Subject: Re: emacs 19 DOC file?
Date: 11 Oct 1993 15:17:47 GMT

In article <MARK.93Oct11031433@defiant.ee.mcgill.ca> mark@macs.ee.mcgill.ca (Mark Kassab) writes:

   The DOC files store what you get when you invoke help in emacs.
   For some reason, at least 2 identical copies are kept.  As far as I
   have seen, the DOC file can be deleted (you only seem to need
   DOC-version).

They should be hard linked together.  Are you sure they're not?
If not, it is probably a problem with the build script.

By the way, there is no relation between the program the original
poster ran named "doc" and this file with the completely different
name "DOC".
--
David S. Fox  --  fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu  --  I have spoken.  All depart.

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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Don't need BogoMips
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:42:20 GMT

In article <CEqDDJ.L84@informatik.uni-rostock.de>,
Marko Klein <klein@informatik.uni-rostock.de> wrote:
>I have installed SLS 1.03 now and found the kernel computing BogoMips.
>I was not so happy about seeing that a benchmark is calculatet every time
>I boot linux because it's a waste of time (not too much but time is money).
>I have commentet out the parts of source defining this and everything works
>great. That sounds well and somebody could ask "Why is he telling us this ?"
>Well, I wanted to say, that I'd liked it if it would be possible to
>disable BogoMips via 'make config' in future versions.
>
>Ok, that's all folks. Bye.

Ah young Grasshopper, one should not be so quick to change what one doesn't
understand! Bogomips purpose is not to compute a benchmark. It's purpose
is to compute a looped based timing constant that is used for some timings
within some of the drivers (the QIC 80 floppy based driver in particular).
You're lucky because you just don't happen to use the result. To think that
someone would beleve that Linus would put something useless in his woderful
piece of art! ;-)

Besides Bogomips is a great way to see if your machine is configured to its
optimal speed. Several folks have fonud that their turbo switch or crystal
setting were incorrectly set due to Bogomips.

Bogomips is not an annoyance, it's a way of life ! ;-)

Later,

BAJ (386DX40: 7.29 Bogomips, 486DX50: 25.45 Bogomips, 486DX33: 16.67 Bogomips)
---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu

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From: stolz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Eckehard Stolz)
Subject: Re: SCSI adapter for linux?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:49:47 GMT


In article <750101596.1709@minster.york.ac.uk>, al-b@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
|> In article <13970@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> jjctc@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (James C. Tsiao) writes:
|> >In article <1993Oct3.232427.28882@mdd.comm.mot.com> mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) writes:
|> >>in comp.os.linux.misc, eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale) said:
|> >>
|> >>>In article <1993Oct3.163648.17763@mdd.comm.mot.com> mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) writes:
|> >>>> ...
|> >>>>BTW, I'm using a 0.99pl13 kernel, but I've been seeing these timeout
|> >>>>errors since I added my SCSI tape at pl12, and have been seeing the
|> >>>>1542C lockups since I began seeing the timeout messages.
|> >

Hi !

I read in the german "C'T" (a monthly computer magazin) about a test of the
1542C, where they told they had problems with some Unix's and accused the 1542C
to be the cause for this problems. 

A few issues later, they said it was because of wire problems ! It seemed, that
this controller is very picky about the SCSI-wires !

I don't know exactly the text anymore, but if you were interested, please email
me, I will look up for the issue and the text of this articles.

cu

Eckehard Stolz
stolz@fiffi.sta.sub.org
stolz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de 

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From: krueger@centi.cs.umn.edu (W. Alan Krueger)
Subject: Re: Why only compressed kernels?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:56:40 GMT

In article <29bnnb$eqs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron Faber) writes:
|> st@epcc.ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford) writes:
|> 
|> >I've just upgraded from 0.99.10 to 0.99.13 and I notice that
|> >uncompressed kernels are no longer supported in the kernel Makefile. I
|> >can see compressed kernels are very handy for boot floppies, but why
|> >have uncompressed kernels been dropped altogether, especially as it
|> >prevents you from doing things like "strings /vmlinux" etc.? Is the
|> >kernel size getting too close to the 640k limit? Can somebody
|> >enlighten me?
[...]
|> Ya... I'd like to know the same to.
[...]

I was under the impression that the 640k limit was a "feature" of MeSsy-DOS.  Is there a similar limit on a Unix kernel?
-- 
   William Alan Krueger   | krueger@cs.umn.edu, krue0052@gold.tc.umn.edu
     Graduate Student     | "I've never been the kind / To close an open mind"
  Computer Science Dept.  |       - "Free Time," Michael Penn
 University of Minnesota  | "Hellllllooooooooooooooo, Nurse!" - Warner Bros.

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From: dancy@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Ahmon Dancy)
Subject: Re: Why only compressed kernels?
Date: 11 Oct 1993 17:06:56 GMT

>I was under the impression that the 640k limit was a "feature" of MeSsy-DOS.  Is there a similar limit on a Unix kernel?
Actually, it's a hardware problem.  Video cards and such are located at the
640K RAM boundary...then at the 1meg boundary regular ram continues... so
it's a problem w/ contiguous memory.  Unix (once it's booted and running)
overcomes the problem but DOS hasn't... mainly to maintain compatibility w/
old DOS programs.

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