Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #435
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Wed, 15 Dec 93 23:13:14 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #435, Volume #1                Wed, 15 Dec 93 23:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Debate: Time to Remove SLS From archive sites? (J.H.M. Dassen)
  Re: Windows emulation  was Re: Microsoft Invented Inferior Personal C (Craig Lewis)
  Partitions not found in /dev (Kendall Beaman)
  Re: Linux / DOS boot (Bill C. Riemers)
  Re: Looking for distribution (Bill C. Riemers)
  Help files avialable by e-mail (Bill C. Riemers)
  Re: fork: try again (Kai Harrekilde-Petersen)
  Re: Windows emulation  was Re: Microsoft Invented Inferior Personal C (Andrew Bulhak)
  Status of MCC? (Steve Starck)
  Re: _Real_ hackers ... (Eric Youngdale)
  Any interest in a DAT distribution? (Stephen R. Savitzky)
  Re: Debate: Time to Remove SLS From archive sites? (Andy)
  Linux Counter: The most popular distributions (Harald T. Alvestrand)

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From: dassen@sthp.wi.leidenuniv.nl (J.H.M. Dassen)
Subject: Re: Debate: Time to Remove SLS From archive sites?
Date: 14 Dec 1993 10:08:59 GMT

In article <2eeucb$gth@genesis.ait.psu.edu> fee@cxf111.rh.psu.edu (Chuck Fee) writes:
>So my humble suggestion is to either outright remove SLS from the
>linux archives or move them to the attic directory (at least on tsx-11)
>or at the very least have a warning message explaining just how old
>SLS is and that really don't want to be using it. Of course, this
>is just a suggestion and I hope it gets some constrcutive debate going.
>I am in no position to dictate anything; I'm just trying to help out.
[Other valid stuff deleted]

There is only one thing which makes SLS usefull: the TeX package.
If/when this gets included in Slackware, Debian, Tamu etc., SLS can be removed
entirely, with advices in the FAQs/Howto's about it.

-- 
+-------------------------------J.H.M. Dassen---------------------------------+
| SHALMANESER  That real cool piece of hardware up at the GT tower. They say  |
| he's apt to evolve to true consciousness one day. Also they say he's as     |
| intelligent as a thousand of us put together, which isn't really saying     |
| much,  because when you put a thousand of us together look how stupidly we  |
| behave.                            - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan |
+-Dassen@sthp.wi.LeidenUniv.nl-------------------Dassen@stpc.wi.LeidenUniv.nl-+

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Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.fan.mike-dahmus
From: craig@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Lewis)
Subject: Re: Windows emulation  was Re: Microsoft Invented Inferior Personal C
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 20:39:37 GMT

In article <2eme98$g6h@trane.uninett.no> hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
>

[snip]

>And: Lots of Windows applications call *none* of them.
>Windows is a tidier environment than DOS, any day, according to the book.
>

Then why does Windows crash at least once a session?  I've been using DOS 
since 3.31 was new, and I've had DOS 4.0 crash on me once.


-- 
Craig                                               Craig@Sage.Cc.Purdue.Edu
"I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts".
   -US Representative Earl F. Landgreeb, on record.

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From: beaman@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Partitions not found in /dev
Date: 15 Dec 1993 19:20:26 GMT

    Hey guys,
Well, I decided to create a swap for myself since everyone said this would
be better.  I saw that the swap had to be only 16 megs but of course I had
to test this out.  I typed mkswap -c /dev/hdb7 655??.  It took it but still
only gave me 16 megs so I decided to break it up into 4 16 meg chunks.  I
went into fdisk and deleted the /dev/hdb7 partition and created 4.  I 
previously had a partition /dev/hdb8 which I was going to use for tmp.  It 
got renamed as /dev/hdb7 and so my partition table now looks like this:

Disk /dev/hdb: 15 heads, 62 sectors, 895 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 930 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot  Begin   Start     End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1           1       1     221  102734    6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/hdb2         222     222     894  312945    5  Extended
/dev/hdb5   *     222     222     442  102734    6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/hdb6   *     664     664     894  107384    6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/hdb7         584     584     663   37199+  81  Linux/MINIX
/dev/hdb8         443     443     478   16739+  81  Linux/MINIX
/dev/hdb9         479     479     514   16739+  81  Linux/MINIX
/dev/hdb10        515     515     550   16739+  81  Linux/MINIX
/dev/hdb11        551     551     583   15344+  81  Linux/MINIX

   The only problem is hdb9, hdb10, and hdb11 are not listed in the /dev
directory so I can't create a swap.  Please help me.  E-mail or Post Replies.
I'll get it. :)

PS.
    I have a 386-40 DX.
    I have two 425 IDE Hard Drives (The second one is what I'm working with)
    I have 8 megs of memory.
    I'm running DOS 6.2 / OS/2 2.1 Special Edition / Linux (Patch Level 12 SLS)

PPS. 
    I tried creating the partitions using both Linux and OS/2's fdisk with
the same results.
-- 
==============================================================================
I don't mind what Congress does, as long as they don't do it in the
streets and frighten the horses.    -- Victor Hugo
                                                        beaman@andrews.edu

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From: bcr@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Bill C. Riemers)
Subject: Re: Linux / DOS boot
Date: 15 Dec 93 17:54:26 GMT

In article <2elkpo$ivn@insosf1.infonet.net> sfuller@ins.infonet.net writes:
>You can't boot Linux from DOS. You have to use Lilo (a boot loader that comes
>with both SLS and Slackware) and set it up to boot either DOS or Linux.

Incorrect, pick up a copy of BOOTLIN, and you can then boot Linux from any
DOS prompt.  This is particularly usefull if you are using the new
UMSDOS file system...  This allows the user to aviod using any sort of boot
floppy durring Linux installation.  I immagin that once UMSDOS exits the 
ALPHA testing stage, this will become one of the standard ways of installing
Linux.

                                   Bill


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From: bcr@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Bill C. Riemers)
Subject: Re: Looking for distribution
Date: 15 Dec 93 18:22:27 GMT

In article <755894352.29snx@work.invlogic.com> mmclagan@invlogic.com writes:
>Hi,
>
>   I've just joined this group, and I'd like to install Linux to gate to a
>SLIP server and internet, onto our ethernet LAN.  I'm looking for a 
>distribution that's current (14a-c?) and relatively easy to set up.  I don't
>have access to internet(only this cheapy UUCP connection) to ftp the stuff 
>from anywhere, so it's floppies, or a CD I can create floppy images from.
>
>   Suggestions?  
>
>   Mike was here...
>
>P.S.  Please don't tell me to get the FAQ, I can't FTP it, and it's not in
>our news base here...

No problem, that is why I offer help files by e-mail.  Just send a message
to me (bcr@physics.purdue.edu) with the Subject: help

Unfortunately, files are not automatically updated, so this is not a good
way to get the "most" recent version of these files...  Normally e-mail
is returned in less than five minuites, but sometimes a slow gateway inbetween
your machine and mine can slow this down considerably.  So please wait about
24 hours before duplicating requests -or- reporting a "bug".

Here is my current help file:
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

Linux mail handler!

Info on linux kits, and list Xconfig files.  How  does it work?
You send a message to:

  bcr@physics.purdue.edu

Your subject line will determine what information you are sent.  The
following subject lines are recognized.  My mail handler attempts
to correct common errors, if the subject still isn't recognized
your message is forwarded to me as e-mail.

SUBJECT                           ACTION (mails you)
======================== ==============================================
help                     An updated version of this file
distributions            Sends the Intro. to  Linux mail order ads
Xconfig-file             A list of Xconfig files available
bbs-list                 A list of bbs's that provide Linux
linux-faq                The linux FAQ
======================== ==============================================
install-guide P          the Linux install-guide preface
install-guide 1          Chapter 1, Introduction
install-guide 2          Chapter 2, Getting  Linux, a few ways to get it
install-guide 3          Chapter 3, Installing (SLS) Linux
install-guide 4          Chapter 4, Linux Tutorial, UNIX introduction
install-guide 5          Chapter 5, System Administrationi
install-guide 6          Chapter 6, Advanced Features
install-guide A          Appendix, all the Appendixes
install-guide P 1 2 3 4 5 6 A    The whole guide (8 letters)
======================== ==============================================
howto-index
        * HOWTO INDEX.  Lists more detailed descriptions of the HOWTO's
howto-distribution
        * Distribution HOWTO.  Summary of where you can obtain Linux.
howto-info
        * Linux INFO-SHEET. A general technical introduction to Linux
howto-meta
        * Linux META-FAQ. A list of sources of information about Linux
howto-net2
        * NET-2 HOWTO. Describes how to install and configure the Linux NET-2
howto-ethernet
        * Ethernet HOWTO. A HOWTO about the various Ethernet device drivers
howto-mail
        * Mail HOWTO. All about configuration of electronic mail with Linux
howto-uucp
        * UUCP HOWTO. How to configure UUCP to transfer files, mail, and news
howto-news
        * News HOWTO. Setup and configuration of news software,
howto-printing
        * Printing HOWTO. How to configure and use printing software
howto-scsi
        * SCSI HOWTO. All about SCSI tapes, drives, and CD-ROMs under Linux.
howto-hardware
        * Hardware Compatibility HOWTO. An extensive list of hardware
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Unix-FAQ 2               Relatively basic questions, likely to
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                                   asked by people who though they
                                   already knew all of the answers.
Unix-FAQ 5               Questions pertaining to the various
                                   shells, and the differences.
Unix-FAQ 6               An overview of Unix variants.
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From: bcr@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Bill C. Riemers)
Subject: Help files avialable by e-mail
Date: 15 Dec 93 18:42:10 GMT

OK, I noticed recently only Xconfig files are being requested, so it is
probably time to post this announcement again:


Linux mail handler!

Info on linux kits, and list Xconfig files.  How  does it work?
You send a message to:

  bcr@physics.purdue.edu

Your subject line will determine what information you are sent.  The
following subject lines are recognized.  My mail handler attempts
to correct common errors, if the subject still isn't recognized
your message is forwarded to me as e-mail.

SUBJECT                           ACTION (mails you)
======================== ==============================================
help                     An updated version of this file
distributions            Sends the Intro. to  Linux mail order ads
Xconfig-file             A list of Xconfig files available
bbs-list                 A list of bbs's that provide Linux
linux-faq                The linux FAQ
======================== ==============================================
install-guide P          the Linux install-guide preface
install-guide 1          Chapter 1, Introduction
install-guide 2          Chapter 2, Getting  Linux, a few ways to get it
install-guide 3          Chapter 3, Installing (SLS) Linux
install-guide 4          Chapter 4, Linux Tutorial, UNIX introduction
install-guide 5          Chapter 5, System Administrationi
install-guide 6          Chapter 6, Advanced Features
install-guide A          Appendix, all the Appendixes
install-guide P 1 2 3 4 5 6 A    The whole guide (8 letters)
======================== ==============================================
howto-index
        * HOWTO INDEX.  Lists more detailed descriptions of the HOWTO's
howto-distribution
        * Distribution HOWTO.  Summary of where you can obtain Linux.
howto-info
        * Linux INFO-SHEET. A general technical introduction to Linux
howto-meta
        * Linux META-FAQ. A list of sources of information about Linux
howto-net2
        * NET-2 HOWTO. Describes how to install and configure the Linux NET-2
howto-ethernet
        * Ethernet HOWTO. A HOWTO about the various Ethernet device drivers
howto-mail
        * Mail HOWTO. All about configuration of electronic mail with Linux
howto-uucp
        * UUCP HOWTO. How to configure UUCP to transfer files, mail, and news
howto-news
        * News HOWTO. Setup and configuration of news software,
howto-printing
        * Printing HOWTO. How to configure and use printing software
howto-scsi
        * SCSI HOWTO. All about SCSI tapes, drives, and CD-ROMs under Linux.
howto-hardware
        * Hardware Compatibility HOWTO. An extensive list of hardware
======================== ==============================================
Unix-FAQ toc             The comp.unix.questions FAQ table of 
                                   contents
Unix-FAQ 1               General questions.
Unix-FAQ 2               Relatively basic questions, likely to
                                   be asked by beginners.
Unix-FAQ 3               Intermediate questions.
Unix-FAQ 4               Advanced questions, likely to be
                                   asked by people who though they
                                   already knew all of the answers.
Unix-FAQ 5               Questions pertaining to the various
                                   shells, and the differences.
Unix-FAQ 6               An overview of Unix variants.
Unix-FAQ 7               An comparison of configuration
                                   management systems (RCS, SCCS).
Unix-FAQ toc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7   The full comp.unix.questions FAQ
======================== ==============================================
<anything else>          forwards your message to Bill C. Riemers
======================== ==============================================

PLEASE DON'T REQUEST MORE THAN 8 LETTERS / DAY

  NOTE1: If your mail server does not support a subject line, send a message
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  NOTE2: Most of the help files are posted in comp.os.linux.announce
  if you have access to this newsgroup obtain the HELP and FAQ files
  there!  

  NOTE3: Additional files are avialable by mail at the following address:
            mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
         Please include the subject "help" in the body of your message. 
  
  NOTE4: If you would like to add something to the one of the databases, send
         me e-mail.  (This is a free service.)

  NOTE5: Files are manually updated, so this is not a good way to get the
         most recent versions of these files.


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: kaihp@id.dth.dk (Kai Harrekilde-Petersen)
Subject: Re: fork: try again
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 20:13:03 GMT

In article <ab401.755971678@freenet>,
   ab401@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Tomblin) writes:

   I'm getting this message every day.  When it happens, I can't run anything, 
   and the only solution is to hit the reset button.  This is since I went from 
   the pl12 kernal to the pl14 kernal.  Is there a patch to the pl14 kernal that 
   I'm missing?  Is there something I've configured wrong?

SOunds like the 'good 'ol rpc.portmap problem ...! When tha machine hangs,
try to do a CTRL-<Scroll Lock>, this will show you a list of the processes on
the machine (there'll be 128 of them so part of it will scroll past). Look at
which processes are running. If you see a lot of rpc.portmap zombies, you've
been touched by the rpc.portmap Zombie Curse. Solution either fetch the updated
rpc from tsx-11, or just comment rpc.portmap out from your boot script.

Kai



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From: acb@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.fan.mike-dahmus
Subject: Re: Windows emulation  was Re: Microsoft Invented Inferior Personal C
Date: 16 Dec 1993 00:16:34 GMT

Craig Lewis (craig@sage.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
: In article <2eme98$g6h@trane.uninett.no> hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes:
: >

: [snip]

: >And: Lots of Windows applications call *none* of them.
: >Windows is a tidier environment than DOS, any day, according to the book.
: >

: Then why does Windows crash at least once a session?  I've been using DOS 
: since 3.31 was new, and I've had DOS 4.0 crash on me once.

Why does a Commodore 64 never crash when you're playing games? Why does
an Atari 2600 never crash, or a pocket calculator? Because there is
precious little operating system for there to crash, that's why.

MS-DOS is _not_ an operating system on anything above a 286; the closest
thing to it would be one of those cut-down machine monitors/mini-OSs in
the ROMs of various workstations. However, most people do not know this
and think of MS-DOS as an operating system, much as most people don't
realise that a $100 bill is just a piece of paper; in both cases the
value/significance is created by magic or shamanism.


+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Andrew Bulhak                | "You see not the mystery, for an elephant | 
|  acb@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au    |  is a poem written in tons rather         |
|  Monash Uni, Clayton,         |  than words."                             |
|  Victoria, Australia          |                                           |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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From: sstarck@uswnvg.com (Steve Starck)
Subject: Status of MCC?
Date: 16 Dec 93 00:11:28 GMT

Any indication of when we might see an MCC distribution based
upon pl14 and all the other new and upgraded stuff since pl10+?

I prefer the MCC distribution over the others available because
it provides me with exactly what I need and use (with the
exception of XFree86) and it comes on very few disks.  

I have upgraded my kernel to PL12 already, but it seems that
with a new libc, a new gcc, a new XFree86, not to mention all
of the GNU utils, I'm going to end up with a totaly new 
distribution that I will have to create on my own.

Please, let's not make this a switch to the <insert favorite
distribution here> thread, I just want to know about the status
of MCC.

Thanks
--
Steve Starck                            sstarck@uswnvg.com
Sr. Systems Administrator               
U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
(206)562-5024

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From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Subject: Re: _Real_ hackers ...
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:49:57 GMT

In article <ae063490@p46.f520.n301.z2.fido.imp.com> scoti@p46.keru.chg.imp.com (Enrico Scotoni) writes:
> >   What a bunch of rubbish. You *REALLY* use a machine? Real
> > hackers use their
> > fingers, since numbers greater than ten are just too much (I'm
> > planning a
> > revolution on computing: what about toes?).
>
>Sorry, but this time I can't resist to drop in into this silly thread:
>
>Keep in mind that you have an actual address range of 1 KB with 10 fingers (2
>** 10 - 1). So what a immense address range adding your toes (2 ** 20 - 1 ==
>1MB). Doesn't this remind you of something: Intel already invented this years
>ago, when they introduced the 8088 (10 finger and 10 toes) CPU.

        Years ago there was a magazine called "Datamation" (it still may exist
for all I know), and they had a monthly humor column.  One month they had the
long lost and recently discovered chapter from Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury
tales, called "The Programmyr's Tale". I cannot remember the whole thing, but
there are two lines that stick with me:

        Two toes had been removed from each foot, withall.
        For the programmyr maun count in hexadecimal.

I think the gist of it was that some king hired a programmyr to devleop his
battle plan, and in the end the vibrations from all of the computer equimpent
ended up shaking apart the castle.  The ending for the programmyr was not a
happy one, I am afraid to say.

-Eric
-- 
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.  But I have promises to keep,
And lines to code before I sleep, And lines to code before I sleep."

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From: steve@crc.ricoh.COM (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Subject: Any interest in a DAT distribution?
Date: 15 Dec 1993 22:55:46 GMT

I have been considering putting together a Linux distribution on DAT
tape.  A 60-meter tape holds about 1.3 Gb of uncompressed data -- this
is enough for a complete source tree (including X), a complete Sunsite
snapshot (including all the distributions), and a complete set of
executables, configuration files, and other goodies -- the equivalent
of 2 CD-ROMs.

I have in mind a price somewhere around $25 (i.e. cost of media +
$15), which would include the tape, a boot disk, postage, taxes,
graft, etc.  I would have to get expressions of interest (NOT orders!
I'm not ready yet!) from about 100 people to make it look feasible (I
have a DAT drive, but I'd have to get a bigger disk and of course the
tapes).

Any interest?  Inquiring minds want to know.
Mail comments & expressions of interest to: steve@crc.ricoh.com
--
\ --Steve Savitzky--  \    343 Leigh Ave   \ REAL HACKERS USE AN AXE!
 \ steve@crc.ricoh.COM \ San Jose, CA 95128 \     Free Cyberia!
  \ w: 415-496-5710     \   h:408-294-6492   \ 
   \_________________________________________________________________________

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From: pi92ae@pappa.pt.hk-r.se (Andy)
Subject: Re: Debate: Time to Remove SLS From archive sites?
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:26:23 GMT


   In article <2eeucb$gth@genesis.ait.psu.edu> fee@cxf111.rh.psu.edu (Chuck Fee) writes:
   >So my humble suggestion is to either outright remove SLS from the
   >linux archives or move them to the attic directory (at least on tsx-11)
   >or at the very least have a warning message explaining just how old
   >SLS is and that really don't want to be using it. Of course, this
   >is just a suggestion and I hope it gets some constrcutive debate going.
   >I am in no position to dictate anything; I'm just trying to help out.
   [Other valid stuff deleted]

   There is only one thing which makes SLS usefull: the TeX package.
   If/when this gets included in Slackware, Debian, Tamu etc., SLS can be removed
   entirely, with advices in the FAQs/Howto's about it.

If I have gotten things right.. the TeX package will be in Slackware
1.1.1 wich are on beta testing now.
Hmm any1 who knows when it is to be released??

        /andy
--

==========================================================================
  Bill Gates should limit his salary to the  | PI92AE@pt.hk-r.se is:
  number of bytes addressable by the latest  |     Andy Eskilsson
  version of MS-DOS, and be taxed based on   |    Tranbaersv. 25:12
  the number of bytes of RAM needed by the   |    s-372 38 Ronneby
  latest version of MS-Windows               |         SWEDEN
==========================================================================

"Hey, it's Unix! I know this!"
                Lex, Jurassic park.

Apples have been a problem ever since eden.

Don't walk in front of me, I might be unable to follow you.
Don't walk after me, I might be unable to lead you.
Just walk by my side and be my friend.

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From: hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand)
Subject: Linux Counter: The most popular distributions
Date: 15 Dec 1993 21:01:59 GMT

I don't claim that these numbers are in any way unbiased.
They are just the 240 machine descriptions that have arrived at the counter.
Obviously, they give a slight bias towards net-oriented releases.

Here they are:

Distribution of distribution
============================
  1   0.4%: debian
 46  19.2%: diy (do it yourself)
  8   3.3%: lgx
 12   5.0%: mcc
 84  35.0%: slackware
 80  33.3%: sls
  1   0.4%: tamu
  7   2.9%: unknown
  1   0.4%: yggdrasil

Of the seven "unknown" ones, two were misspellings of slackware.

There are biases in the summing too; one who listed "slackware, sls" got
only the "slackware" part counted.

At least, it is a datum.

(Now for some wild speculation: If this is average, and 8000 LGX CDs have
been sold, and 9 of them turn up here, that would mean that I have a return
rate of 0.11 percent on LGX users. A similar return rate on the others
would mean 218.000 machines in the Linux installed base.
My statistics professor would flunk me for extrapolation.....)

-- 
                   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
                Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
      G=Harald;I=T;S=Alvestrand;O=uninett;P=uninett;C=no
                      +47 73 59 70 94
My son's name is Torbjxrn. The letter between "j" and "r" is o with a slash.
      Register with the Linux Counter! Email to linux-counter@uninett.no!

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