Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #602
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Thu, 27 Jan 94 17:44:50 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #602, Volume #1                Thu, 27 Jan 94 17:44:50 EST

Contents:
  Re: Setuid scripts under pl14 kernels (Stefan Krohmer)
  Re: Advice on multi-serial cards wanted... (Carl Boernecke)
  Get the facts straight! (Re: Distributions and Shadow...) (Ian A Murdock)
  Re: How to format a new hard disk? (Joern Jensen)
  don't buy ULSI math-co rev 1003 (Isaac Wong)
  Re: Slackware needs a shadow package! (Joost Helberg)
  Re: RFV: Linux International proposal (Anselm Lingnau)
  Re: Solitaire ? (Henning Spruth)
  Re: port DOS games to Linux..? (Mr. Bassman)
  Re: Not enough memory !!! (Evmorfopoulos Dimitris)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (Uppie)
  driver postscript -> bubble jet printer (Edmundo de Souza e Silva)
  Re: Need assistance with AHA-1522A SCSI card (Philip Romanik)
  Re: SLACKWARE 1.1.1 (Linux 0.99.14) ON CD-ROM ONLY U$9.95 (Wladimir Minenko)
  Re: Linux as X-Terminal? No! (Anton Ertl)
  please mail me the faq (Paul Rollo)
  Re: NEC CDR-25 (Ken Firestone)
  Another kind of DOSEMU (Harald T. Alvestrand)
  Re: Sounds for Mosaic in Linux (Jason Cash)

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From: sk@galaxy.sunflower.sub.org (Stefan Krohmer)
Subject: Re: Setuid scripts under pl14 kernels
Date: 26 Jan 94 18:28:37 GMT

Neal Becker wrote:

> You may want to use perl for your suid applications.  You can build
> perl 4.036 on linux with minor mods.  Be sure to say you want suid
> emulation!

That's exactly what I want :-). Could someone please inform me about the
needed modifications for linux? Is there a ftp site where I can find the
compiled perl? I tried to compile the sources for 4.036 and got lots of errors
concerning type mismatches :-((. (Slackware 1.1.1, gcc 2.4.5, kernel 0.99p14)

Thanx in advance!

Stefan
--
#include <signature.h>

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From: carlb@inex.com (Carl Boernecke)
Subject: Re: Advice on multi-serial cards wanted...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 04:58:19 GMT

byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
>In article <1994Jan24.134849.5693@news.cs.indiana.edu>,
>Eric Jeschke <jeschke@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>>byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
>>:I can put together a 386/40 (or mabe even 486DLC/40 or IBM 486SLC2/66),
>>:8 Megs of memory,2 STB 4ports (with 16550s), floppy, case + PS and Enet
>>:card for about $660. 
>>
>>Excuse me, but could you elaborate on how to do this for a 486 for $660?
>>Considering the cheapest 486 systems are hovering around $1000 mail-order
>>I'm just curious as to where you can scrounge the pieces for this kind
>>of system for $660.  The mail-order places are operating on pretty thin
>>margins as it is.

>OK. First of all I said a 386/40 so let's start with that. I'll use prices
>I've been quoted from local places.

>$129 - 386/40 MB/w 128k cache - GIM computers
>$264 - 8Megs memory (@ $33/Meg) - HL computers
>$ 65 - desktop case and PS - GIM
>$220 - 2 STB 4ports with 16550's - Promise Tech.
>$ 38 - 1.44 Meg floppy - HL
>$ 19 - Multi IO
>$ 39 - NE2000 clone (Addtron card - Data Comm Warehouse - 800-328-2261)
>----
>$774

>Not too far off from my first estimate. Add $50 for a 486 DLC and $100 for
>an IBM 486SLC2/66. Probably could function with 4 meg (dropping $132 from
>the price and getting me under my original estimate).

>For a terminal server you don't need a video system, keyboard, or harddisk.
>That's why we're not talking about $1000 system.

Another point is that systems like this can often be found used
for very little money.  I picked-up a 386/33 for a friend, and it
only cost $300 (without monitor or video card, but including a
keyboard -- with 4 MB of RAM).  

My two 'terminal servers' that I have now all used parts that I
already had or were purchased used or new for good prices.  I
probably haven't spent over $500 on either of them, and now have
the ability to run 16 ports into my network.

-- 
-- Carl Boernecke (carlb@inex.com [MIME-ready])
   "Remember to drive carefully.  90% of all people are caused by
   accidents."

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From: imurdock@shell.portal.com (Ian A Murdock)
Subject: Get the facts straight! (Re: Distributions and Shadow...)
Date: 27 Jan 94 05:18:22 GMT

In article <1994Jan26.145025.7046@rpp386>,
John F. Haugh II <jfh@rpp386.cactus.org> wrote:
>In article <1994Jan22.202454.19022@newstand.syr.edu> lruppert@iguana.syr.EDU (Ludwig Van.) writes:
>>Clarity on this one would be appreciated.  Theft is a pretty strong
>>term.  Exactly what was "stolen", and to whom was it sold?  I have a
>>very richly featured Linux distribution and not one single package was
>>sold to me. I grabbed the package in its entirety off of the net for
>>free, and the package contains programs that all have their sources
>>available for free on the net.  Last I checked, taking things that
>>were free and redistributing them for free was not considered
>>thievery, perhaps my dictionary is out of date.
>
>To the best of my knowledge, Debian Linux is one such example.  They
>took Shadow code, and in violation of the copyright, sold that code
>to others.  Furthermore, they have been completely unwilling to reach
>any terms as to licensing Shadow.
>
>If you copied it for free from the net, you've done nothing wrong.  If
>you were given a copy for free, the person giving you the copy did
>nothing wrong.  But if someone sold you Shadow without my consent, they
>are in violation of US copyright laws.

Well, I believe that libel is also in violation of US law, Mr. Haugh.
I, nor anyone else to my knowledge, has made a dime from Debian Linux.
I am a strong advocate and supporter of free software.  Just ask
Richard Stallman, who after hearing of my goals for Debian Linux (which
are, incidentally, to provide a NON-commercial distribution that will
be able to effectively compete in the commercial market) asked if the
Free Software Foundation could distribute it on their CD-ROM.  You are
the one who is milking your "free" software for all that it is worth
(which, in my opinion, is not that much), not me.

For the record, when you asked me to pay your license fee I had already
removed all shadow code from Debian Linux because it was BROKEN. 

Think before you post next time, and get the facts straight first.

Ian
--
Ian Murdock <imurdock@shell.portal.com>

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From: jornj@edb.tih.no (Joern Jensen)
Subject: Re: How to format a new hard disk?
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:16:43 GMT

Note, I removed the original 'Newsgroup' and 'Followup-To'-lines, I can't
stand that kind of crossposting..

Wim van Dorst/Prof. Penninger (tgcpwd@rwb.urc.tue.nl) wrote
[...]

: How do I format my new 1GB SCSI disk? The only formatting program
: that I can find is for floppies. The manual says I should do
: 'FORMAT C:/S' but I don't have/want dos.

If your SCSI-disk is f.x. /dev/sda, have you tried this?
fdisk /dev/sda
(make partitions etc. etc., write and reboot)
Now, to format (not low-level, I know nothing about that..), you could use
this command:
mkfs -t ext2 -c -v /dev/sda1

Good luck,
//jornj

--
Jorn F Jensen, Student at Trondheim College of Engineering, CS.
      Klostergt. 56, A36, 7030 Trondheim, Norway. +47-7-503800 ext 136
            E-Mail: jornj@edb.tih.no
-- Voltaire: A witty saying proves nothing..

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From: wongi@netcom.com (Isaac Wong)
Subject: don't buy ULSI math-co rev 1003
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 05:11:10 GMT


A couple of weeks ago I posted a message concerning a suspected FPU problem.
A couple of netters kindly pointed out it could be my ULSI math-co.

I then called ULSI about it and the guy asked me what rev number it has on
my chip. I said 1003, he then said ah ha and asked me to send it back. I did
and they sent me a new one today. so far it works very well. the new one has a
rev number (the number on the lower left corner of the chip) 10501.

so if you see a rev number 

    1003        Do not buy,
    10501       It's probably OK, I am using it.

I don't know what other rev numbers there are out there, so be careful.

I must say ULSI has handled my case very professionally and I am happy now.

 

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From: jhelberg@nlsun8.oracle.nl (Joost Helberg)
Subject: Re: Slackware needs a shadow package!
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:50:19 GMT

In article <14523@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> bcr@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Bill C. Riemers) writes:
   How about this:

   1. Add an encryption feature into the file system.
   2. Sell the CD at cost.
   3. Encrypt any program on the CD that the the copyright allows.
   4. Sell the encryption key needed to access the encrypted stuff.

Are you serious?

This is exactly one of the things the GPL wants to avoid: an
artificial relationship between customer and distributor with all the
power at the distributor's end.

Ridiculous.
--
   Joost Helberg                              Rijnzathe 6
   jhelberg@oracle.nl                         NL-3454 PV De Meern
   jhelberg@nl.oracle.com                     The Netherlands

   Oracle Europe BV                           Product Line Development  
   Phone: +31 3406 94211                      Fax:   +31 3406 65609

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From: lingnau@math.uni-frankfurt.de (Anselm Lingnau)
Subject: Re: RFV: Linux International proposal
Date: 24 Jan 1994 16:49:02 GMT

In article <CK3ICz.9yt@eurom.fsag.rhein-main.de>,
misch@eurom.fsag.rhein-main.de (Michaela Merz) writes:

> There are too many little companies which are selling Linux in a kind
> of fire and forget. Nobody feels responsible for after sales. There
> is no support available, and everybody will become a true Windows or
> OS/2 users if he/she is gettin' into trouble with Linux because there's
> no help available. This companies are doing a good business but they
> are also destroying a lot of confidence. Remember: not everybody has 
> access to netnews.

Do you think LI will get into the business of direct end-user handholding? I
doubt it. Let's face it: Linux support will, at least for the foreseeable
future, be done over the Net. Maybe zealous Linux vendors and local user
groups will be able to provide more direct end-user support, but a consortium
like the proposed `Linux International' won't. Not that there's any reason to
go crazy over the fabulous support companies like Microsoft are providing;
I'll take the Net over that any day, thank you very much.
 
> Linux will *never* become important to commercial users as long as the 
> most needed applications (i.e. textprocessing) are not available. The 
> free software community has not been able to produce software for
> endusers.

This has nothing to do with `able'. It's just a question of what kind of
software the free software programmers would like to have. There is no
technical difficulty in writing, say, a free clone of Word or 1-2-3 that
Microsoft or Lotus didn't have to address in the same manner. It just turns
out that, until now, nobody seems to have needed a free Word or 1-2-3 clone
badly enough to actually sit down and write one (or raise the money to get
someone else to write it for them as free software).

Right now most of the effort of writing free software seems to go into
producing tools. This may be because the FSF, being the folks who invented
free software, consider it their mission to produce a Unix-like operating
system. There are various `end-user' programs which are freely available, but
even these are mostly targeted towards the hacker type.  Possibly the hackers
write that software for themselves and don't bother too much about the
marketing folks.

> And commercial organisations will not port any software,
> as long as there is nobody they can talk to.

I don't buy that. Commercial vendors will port software to Linux if they think
the effort will pay through sales of that software, or because they think it's
worth it for other reasons. Look at what ParcPlace do with their UI builder;
they're giving it away for Linux, presumably to increase their sales for
non-free platforms. Evidently, you don't have to have `somebody to talk to' to
do that.

> We *will* support LI. Because we want to support LINUX.

IMHO supporting LI and supporting Linux are two entirely separate concerns. 
Consider people like Martin M"uller and Sebastian Hetze, the authors of the
_Linux-Anwenderhandbuch_. In my opinion they have done more for making Linux
accessible to newbies than all those who were proclaiming consortia and their
assorted lofty goals.

If you absolutely want to convert people to a new OS, you'll have to show what
benefits they will reap from a change. If they don't benefit from their
trouble, you'll look mighty silly. Right now, we don't need `Linux
International', whoever that will be, to do that and make Linux look silly. 
Right now, we'll have to work on giving people a reason to switch other than
`DOS is sh*t'. There may be time for LI later, when we'll actually have
something to show. [*]

Anselm

[*] Don't get me wrong -- Linux is a nice piece of work already, if you're a
Unix hacker. It might look somewhat different if you're an accountant or
Liberal Arts major.
-- 
Anselm Lingnau .................................. lingnau@math.uni-frankfurt.de
Fine words and an insinuating appearance are seldom associated with true
virtue.                                               --- Confucius, *Analects*

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From: hns@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Henning Spruth)
Subject: Re: Solitaire ?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 09:01:15 +0100

frank@vatmom.COM (Frank M. Haynes) writes:

>The only reason I use MS windows is for Solitaire.

>Is it available for X-windows?

Yes, there exists a Tk program called 'tksol-0.9' that is almost
identical to Windows solitaire. It works with the tcl1/2
distributed with the Slackware distribution.

I love it!
-- 
========================================================================
Henning Spruth                    spruth@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
Institute of Electronic Design Automation
Technical University of Munich, Germany

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From: bassman@isoit034.bbn.hp.com (Mr. Bassman)
Subject: Re: port DOS games to Linux..?
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 09:26:33 GMT

In article <1994Jan25.191911.12367@nicmad.uucp>, wanggaar@nicmad.uucp (Mike Wanggaard ) writes:
|> After recently receiving a copy of DOOM, I began to wonder what it would take
|> to port a game of that magnitude to Linux native.  It seems so painful to
|> think that they are both running on the same instruction set, and yet I
|> can't run DOOM from within Linux.
|> 
[...]
|> 
|> How does multitasking affect game programming?
|> 
|> How would the executable format of DOS vs. Linux affect things?
|> 
|> What about the DOS API (I think I have heard that DOS has an API)?
|> 
|> Would packages such as SVGALIB or VGALIB be able to provide the necessary
|> graphics routines (or perhaps even better)?
|> 
|> What problems is DOSEMU facing that don't allow this to happen (actually, I
|> have only assumed that DOSEMU can't deal with resource intensive games, and
|> I also in no way mean to flame DOSEMU)?

        On a vaguely similar note...  I used to program under VMS (eeeuch!)
for which I humbly apologize, but I was because it was a real time OS, I
could do things like:

        lib$wait(0.27);

        This would make the process sleep for exactly 27 hundredths of a
second. Under a generic unix, you can call sleep() but you can only give
it an integer value, instead of a float.

        How do I make my process sleep for a very small, but accurate amount
of time ?  Did I miss something somewhere ?  (Probably...)  It'd be useful
to be able to set alarm() in the same way. I know I could read the clock
and do loads of compares, but this is busy-waiting, and I'd rather have the
process sleep (for several reasons).

        If I wanted to write a game, I'd need this accuracy. Given that
the system is multi-user, it's not good to hog the processor. Could someone
possibly mail me some advice ?

TIA...
-- 
Mr. Bassman
Platform Services (UNIX)
Hewlett-Packard, Boeblingen, Germany
bassman@hpbbi30.bbn.hp.com

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From: devmorfo@mtu.edu (Evmorfopoulos Dimitris)
Subject: Re: Not enough memory !!!
Date: 27 Jan 1994 10:16:38 GMT

In article <CJrMxr.6F8@dm.unibo.it>, roberto@csr.unibo.it (Roberto Rossi) writes:
> I've installed Linux 0.99 PL13, Slackware Release 1.1.0, on a
> Compaq Presario 486 SX with 100 Mb HD and 4 Mb RAM.
> I've rebuilt the kernel to support a 3C503 card and disk quotas. 
> No problems, but the system runs some hours and then
> stops with the following message:
> 
>                               Not enough memory
> 
> The swap partition is 16 Mb. What's the problem ?
> 
> 
> Roberto Rossi
> roberto@csr.unibo.it

        Try to monotor your system, to see what is eating up your memory. There is
a leaky program running in your box. (ps aux - a simple way to see how much memory
each process occupies).

-- 
         ______      _______
        |  __  \    |  _____|   devmorfo@cs.mtu.edu  (Evmorfopoulos Dimitris)
        | |  \  |   | |___              
        | |   | |   |  ___|     Masters student working hard on        
        | |___| |   | |_____
        |_______| * |_______| * "Sliding Sunday, Week compression algorithm." 

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From: juphoff@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu (Uppie)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:14:31 GMT

Michaela Merz (misch@eurom.fsag.rhein-main.de) wrote:

: On Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:08:46 GMT,
: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (0000-Admin(0000)) wrote:

: > (cat << __EOF__
: > Julian D Glover (univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: > : In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
: > : MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
: > : pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.
: > __EOF__
: > ) > /dev/null
: > 
: > Your MessyDos can't do this, uh?
: > 
: > Steef

: Hmm - don't flame me - but we should take this guy more seriously - even
: he might have used the wrong words. Linux *is* just toy - as long as
: there are no real applications available. 

What's a real application?  I'm running AIPS (Astronomical Image
Processing System) on my Linux PC.  57MB's of source code, compiles
out to almost 100MB of stripped binaries.  Does image reduction, display,
analysis, etc. of radio astronomy data.  It's as real an application as exists
in the computer world.  (And my Linux machine, a 486DX2/66V, is running
with low-end Suns speed-wise.)

--
Jeff Uphoff -- "Uppie"  |  "The secret to good teaching is sincerity. 
                        |  As soon as you learn to fake that, you've got
juphoff@nrao.edu        |  it made."

WWW/Mosaic home page:  http://tarsier.cv.nrao.edu/juphoff/home

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From: edmundo@retina.cs.ucla.edu (Edmundo de Souza e Silva)
Subject: driver postscript -> bubble jet printer
Date: 21 Jan 94 21:24:53 GMT

I'm looking for a filter to print postscript files in a bubble jet printer.

Someone mentioned that I should look into ghostscript.  I looked and I
found drivers for the HP DeskJet 500C & 550C, HP PaintJet, XL, and XL300,
DEC LJ250, but not for the bubble jet.

Does any one knows of some driver, or of other way to solve the problem?

Thanks, and please answer to: edmundo@cs.ucla.edu

Edmundo

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From: philip@cognex.uucp (Philip Romanik)
Subject: Re: Need assistance with AHA-1522A SCSI card
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 06:57:18 GMT

I know that the recent Slackware kernel floating around (including on
CD-ROM) has a kernel that supports the 1522.

Preston Beach (locutus@hebron.connected.com) wrote:
: Dear Netland,
:   I have a desire to run Linux SLS on my machine. Everything 'seems' to
: be going alright except for one small problem.  Linux does not recognize
: my SCSI card.  My card does work under DOS but that is not what I want.
: If anyone has any idea what I can do short of buying another SCSI card,
: to get my Adaptec AHA-1522A card to work, please let me know.  I would
: prefer not to have to get another card but the option is there.
: I have looked through alot of docs about hardware usable with Linux and
: some of the Adaptec cards are listed, unfortunately, not this one.
: I read in one doc that Adaptec 1522 IS supported but when I boot it says
: there is no SCSI card.  If someone knows what configuration the card
: needs to be (jumpers) let me know.
: Please assist. Thanks in advance.
:      -Preston
: 
: locutus@nightmare.connected.com

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From: wladimir@dfki.uni-sb.de (Wladimir Minenko)
Subject: Re: SLACKWARE 1.1.1 (Linux 0.99.14) ON CD-ROM ONLY U$9.95
Date: 27 Jan 1994 10:35:52 GMT

In article <a3.1.1.0N92254A@jana.com>, jay@jana.com (Jay) writes:
|> SLACKWARE 1.1.1 (Linux 0.99.14 ) ON CD-ROM - ONLY $9.95
|> 
|> I have crated a CD-ROM that contains Slackware 1.1.1 (Linux 0.99.14 ).
|> Slackware was FTPed from ftp.cdrom.com only 5 days ago. You can install
|> Linux directly from the CD-ROM. I installed Linux on my system in less
|> then a hour.

I have found it very interesting !

|> Our New FTP site with 4 GB Storage will be up on Feb 28th. Suporting
|> Linux, Windows, MS-DOS and NeXT. FTP JANA.COM  on Feb 28th.
|> *************************************************************************

I cannot reach this host via NIS. Can somebody send me (or post)
the Internet address?

Thanks

--
Regards

        Wladimir Minenko
        Project KIK-TEAMKOM

        DFKI GmbH               ===>    German Research Center for
        Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3            Artificial Intelligence Inc.
        66123 Saarbruecken
        Germany
        Tel. +49-681-302-5294
        Fax. +49-681-302-5297
        e-mail: minenko@dfki.uni-sb.de

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From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: Linux as X-Terminal? No!
Date: 26 Jan 1994 13:51:32 GMT

In article <1994Jan25.222105.24447@super.org>, becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes:
|> The usual result is a set of large, expensive hosts connected to moderately
|> priced X terminals.  The total cost is typically greater than workstation
|> networks, especially when compared to low-cost Linux workstations.

We use workstations (5 Decstations for 17 X-Terminals) as hosts, so
our setup is considerably cheaper than the workstation-only setup.

BTW, we have no problems with network bandwidth, the limiting factor
is CPU (the users run emacs 19 most of the time).

|> Every time I look at the market, I'm amazed at the high price of X
|> terminals.  High end models approach the price of low-end traditional
|> workstations, and are far more than a typical Linux/X workstation.  The
|> mid-range models are about the same as a typical Linux machine with the same
|> display and memory.  I would have thought that by avoiding the disk and not
|> having to adhere to PC standards (everything on the slow ISA bus, dozens of
|> VGA modes, multisync, etc.) X terminals could be made far cheaper and
|> faster, but the mass production of PC components seems to have won.

Well, you probably compare the list price of the X terminal to the
street price of the PC. We bought our X-Terminals at less than $1500,
while 486 PCs with a small screen are about $1800 around
here. Allright, we bought about 30 X-terminals to get to that price,
for additional single X-Teminals they want $2000 (and I think the list
price is around $4000). The X-Terminals have several advantages over a
PC: the screen is large (19", 1280x1024), it is monochrome (I can't
find any mono screens with this size and resolution where the
screen/graphics card combo would not be more expensive than the
X-Terminal), the keyboard feels better (IMO) and we get support if we
have problems. And of course the usual benefits of low admin
overhead. The speed of the X-Terminals is perfectly satisfying. When
we buy the next batch, I'll get one for my Linux box at home.

- anton
-- 
M. Anton Ertl                    Some things have to be seen to be believed
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at Most things have to be believed to be seen

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From: mcsdc1pwr@dct.ac.uk (Paul Rollo)
Subject: please mail me the faq
Date: 26 Jan 94 19:22:53 GMT

Could someone mail me the FAQ please?

I expect that it will deal with hardware requirements, and how to get Linux???

Thanks,
Paul.


        Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it.
                                                        George Bernard Shaw.


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From: kenf@clark.net (Ken Firestone)
Subject: Re: NEC CDR-25
Date: 26 Jan 1994 14:15:38 GMT

Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote:
: In article <2i23ni$5ea@clarknet.clark.net>, kenf@clark.net (Ken Firestone) says:
: +---------------
: | Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote:
: | : I got read errors trying to mount a CDROM on one.  Moreover, you'd want a
: | : separate SCSI interface for it if you ever want SCSI hard drives, because it
: | : locks the bus while it's reading... which takes a LOOOONG time...
: | 
: | I have been using the NEC CDR 25 with Linux ever since I got Linux. Other 
: | than being a tad slow, it is just fine.  The problem is not with the 
: | drive, but with the SCSI controller.  The one that comes with it from Nec 
: | is useless.  Use it with a real SCSI controller, like the Adaptec 1542b. 
: +------------->8

: I *did* use it with the AHA1542B.

: +---------------
: | The trick is to disable the parity check on the controller(I think that 
: | was it) as the NEC cdr25 doesn't support it. 
: +------------->8

: I didn't see that in the manual... then again, it was a reconditioned unit and
: probably some manuals were missing.  (The CDR-25, that is.)

: It did lock the bus while it was busy, though.... maybe it's not as noticeable
: if the parity check is turned off, but personally I would prefer error
: detection.

It wasn't in the manual. After a very frustrating weekend, I called NEC 
and a tech type there told me to do it. I was worried about the error 
detection too, but I was told it wouldn't be a problem. perhaps some 
other less efficient errordetection is used. Now if I can figure out how 
to disable parity on my 1542a which I don't have a manual for, we'll see 
if linux supports that too.


--

============================================================================
Ken Firestone, N3JBU     | If you look at things right, its best not to know 
kenf@clark.net           | who you really are. Because anything that happens 
                         | to anybody who doesn't know who he really is 
                         | actually happens to somebody else. So it makes no 
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From: hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand)
Subject: Another kind of DOSEMU
Date: 27 Jan 1994 09:05:31 GMT

Hi,
I just wondered:
I dislike the kind of setup I have to do to run DOS programs now:
- configure DOSEMU (well, that may be unavoidable)
- start DOSEMU; look at lots of silly DOS messages
- start the application
- do what I want (or crash)
- exit application
- exit DOSEMU
- find out I forgot something
- start DOSEMU....

What I would like is something like a single command-line interface,
more like the WINE idea than the current dosemu:

dosemu --configuration wpenvironment d:/wp51/wp c:/autoexec.bat

where DOS would be booted, the application started, and on exit,
DOSEMU would terminate - all with a minimum of hassle.

It would be possible to hack something like this (I think) if:

- the configuration files can be given at dosemu startup, rather than
  found at a fixed location
- the command line of dosemu was available within dosemu's
  autoexec.bat
- something like "all output from booting to debug file or /dev/null"
  existed
- booting was FAST.

I suspect the last one might be a slightly sticky point....

Comments? Is it "done, see manual page xx", "easy - see next week's version",
"hack it yourself", or "impossible"?

-- 
                   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
                Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
      G=Harald;I=T;S=Alvestrand;O=uninett;P=uninett;C=no
                      +47 73 59 70 94
My son's name is Torbjxrn. The letter between "j" and "r" is o with a slash.

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From: cash@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu (Jason Cash)
Subject: Re: Sounds for Mosaic in Linux
Date: 26 Jan 1994 14:17:18 GMT

In article <2i5o26$o1m@liberator.et.tudelft.nl> etstjan@dutepp2.et.tudelft.nl (Jan van Oorschot) writes:
>genie@scam.Berkeley.EDU (Gene Choi) writes:
>
>
>>I have a quick question that someone who's familiar with the sound
>>parts of Linux can answer.  I am running Mosaic 2.0 (i.e. xmosaic)

 [mosaic prob deleted]

>
>i did the following:
>
>       - create the /dev/audio device (can play .au files)
>       - create a script "showaudio" in /usr/local/bin
>
>what i would like to know is how to overwrite the 'showaudio, and have mosaic 
>use an other name. Somewhere in the Changes file i found there is
>and X-resource for the, but i have not been able to get it working.
>
>Jan
>-- 
>-- Ir. Jan van Oorschot.          --- Email: J.P.M.vOorschot@et.tudelft.nl --

    Using a .mailcap file is probably the answer you are looking for.  try
using the following in a file .mailcap off you home:

## This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff,
## etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'.  Note that '%s' means 'put the
## datafile name here when the viewer is executed'.
audio/*; cat %s > /dev/audio


    This is assuming you have created the /dev/audio device.
The "mailcap" format is formally defined by RFC 1524. 

Jason Cash
cash@udel.edu


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