Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #609
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Date:     Fri, 28 Jan 94 11:13:13 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #609, Volume #1                Fri, 28 Jan 94 11:13:13 EST

Contents:
  WY-50 emulation!?!? (Kerry I. Kurian)
  Re: accessing DD MS-DOS floppies (Scott Alfter)
  Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1 (David Fox)
  Re: Advice on multi-serial cards wanted... (Jon Brawn)
  problem with Slackware 1.1.1 perl 'h2ph' (Vince Skahan)
  Re: Good Linux Package for C course ? (Vince Skahan)
  Re: PPP slower than SLIP! (Remco Treffkorn)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (David E. Fox)
  How compatible is the DEC (Tandberg?) TZ10AA QIC-525 tape drive? (Jos Vos)
  Re: Bogomips really DON'T mean anything (Pieter Verhaeghe)
  Re: Commercial Products for Linux???? (James Vera)
  Re: InfoMagic Linux CD (Bill Pechter)
  Re: Clock runs slow under Linux (Bill Pechter)
  WinSock/TCPIP Free (Terence Tan)
  Re: Would mailx+sendmail work over term? (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: Sounds for Mosaic in Linux (Me)
  Re: Does the Mitsumi 2xSpeed CD-ROM work with Linux? (cosc19v2)

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From: pedro@wpi.WPI.EDU (Kerry I. Kurian)
Crossposted-To: wpi.system.linux
Subject: WY-50 emulation!?!?
Date: 28 Jan 1994 03:44:45 GMT


Circa 1983:  Is there a WY-50 terminal emulation available for Linux?

-Cat

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: sknkwrks@buddy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: accessing DD MS-DOS floppies
Date: 27 Jan 1994 04:11:20 GMT

In article <1994Jan25.160409.2295@et.tudelft.nl> andreas@elmat01.et.tudelft.nl (A.A.Buykx) writes:
>How do I access 3_1/2" DD MS-DOS floppies? The default is to read HD 
>floppies and when I put in a DD floppy, it says:
>"Cannot initialize drive A:" or something like that. I found a file 
>for mtools in which some initializing parameters are set for reading 
>HD floppies, but it is not clear to me how to change them for DD 
>floppies, nor do I know if it is the right thing to do.

Instead of bothering with reconfiguring mtools, just mount the disk:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd[01] {mountpoint}

When done, use this:

umount /dev/fd[01]

Pick the proper device (fd0 for A:, fd1 for B:--for 3.5" disks,
that'll normally be fd1) and make sure you have an empty directory to
serve as a mount point.

  _/_   Scott Alfter (sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu)       Ask me about SoftDAC--digital
 / v \  Skunk Works BBS offline for maintenance!  audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
(IIGS(  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis 1:209/263 Apple II, IBM, Trek, & more!
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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
Date: 26 Jan 1994 23:28:43 GMT

Could we just agree that the original question was ambiguous?

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From: jonb@specialix.com (Jon Brawn)
Subject: Re: Advice on multi-serial cards wanted...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:40:05 GMT


Michael Horwath <drechsau@winternet.mpls.mn.us> wrote:
>
>If you are going to go above about 8 ports, try out a termserver.  I just
>got one for StarNet (the winternet.... address uses one) is just great.
>
>Remove the IRQ load off of your machine, with that many lines, I would
>rather have interrupts created for the ether than for upteen serial ports.
>
>Yes, I know, the interrupts are fast and services regulary, but with the
>ANNEX Micro XL I have, I can have it send packets based on how many 
>characters received or a timeout, which ever comes first, and can run
>all 16 ports at 57600 without adding the load of 16 serial ports on the
>machine itself.

byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
>OK Mike,

>How much does it cost?
>How much is an annex?

Far too much for what you are trying to do (you'd be buying way too much
technology for the job in hand...)

Specilaix manufacture and market a TCP/IP terminal server which is $1695 for
the first 8 ports, expandable in 8 port increments to 32 ports, for a cost
of $650 for each 8 port expansion. The 8 port expansion boxes can be any mix
of: 8 female DB25 RS232, 8 male DB25 RS232, 8 RJ45 RS232, 8 female DB25 RS232
or a unit which has 7 female DB25 RS232 + 1 Parallel printer port.

The MTS (Modular Terminal Server) works with Linux (I've tried it), and
supports telnet, rlogin, snmp, reverse telnet, raw mode (listen on an 
arbitrary socket) reverse raw (connect to an arbitrary socket) and rcp for
printers (allowd you to rcp a file to the MTS and have it fall out of a
printer).

Phone Specialix sales on 1-800-423-5364 for more information.
Prices quoted are our recommended retail prices.

I reserve the right to have got the facts completely wrong.


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From: vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: problem with Slackware 1.1.1 perl 'h2ph'
Date: 27 Jan 1994 17:22:30 -0800

The path in Slackware 1.1.1 /usr/bin/h2ph (for perl) is wrong.

It should be '/usr/lib/perl', not '/root2/usr/lib/perl' as the
place where include files that you .h-->.ph are placed...


-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com -------------
     "When you can get your customer to tatoo your name on their chest,
      it is unlikely that they will change brands"
           - Indiana Univ. of PA professor about Harley Davidson owners

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From: vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Good Linux Package for C course ?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 17:31:07 -0800

ta107109@menudo.uh.edu writes:
>Hi, I am teaching C programming course this semester (on unix platform), 
>and when I talked about Linux in the class, many students were interested.
>However, my section is for non-cs majors who do not have any computer
>backgrounds.   I myself am using Slackware and happy with it, but
>I guess that the package is too big.

>So, I am looking for a very small minimum Linux package for C programming
>( gcc, make, ...etc. + tcsh + kermit : hopefully within 4 or 5  diskettes 
>alltogether), yet very easy to install (for non-experienced users).


you can't do much better than mcc-interim if you don't mind it being a 
little out of date.  for a c-class I suppose it would be just fine.


-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com -------------
     "When you can get your customer to tatoo your name on their chest,
      it is unlikely that they will change brands"
           - Indiana Univ. of PA professor about Harley Davidson owners

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: root@hip-hop.sbay.org (Remco Treffkorn)
Subject: Re: PPP slower than SLIP!
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 08:53:50 GMT
Reply-To: remco@hip-hop.sbay.org

I also notice fairly slow ping response times of 500 to 700ms from
the other end. And on top of that I think that ftp transfer speeds of
500 to 700 cps are a bit slow for a 14.4 modem.

If you want to try something out: disable data correction and compression
on your modem and watch the ping times go to around 200ms. That certainly
will not help your ftp times, though :-)

The latency introduced by mnp4 or V.42 is responsible for longer ping
times. I am not aware of a settable parameter to change the latency via
AT commands.

So, if you want to compare figures: give the modem mode also.

If anybody could give me an insight about the low transfer speed....
The PPP overhead should not be that high?

What kind of speed do you people get? More than 500 to 700 cps?

Remco
-- 

Remco Treffkorn, DC2XT
remco@hip-hop.sbay.org   <<-- REAL reply address !!
(408) 685-1201

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From: root@belvedere.sbay.org (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 21:33:20 GMT

Julian D Glover (univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk) wrote:

: In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
: MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
: pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.

Bull.

I was using a MSDOS/Windows system to do some work this past weekend,
and it crashed five times in a few hours.

Linux has been running steadily for 15 days before a reboot, and when
I last rebooted it was by choice, not because of an instability.

DOS is crippleware - why anyone should pay for it is beyond me. It
has practically zero functionality by itself; if you want to do
anything you have to buy applications, utilities, etc., for it,
and Linux is free.  

Guess which OS I'm using (and will continue to use) - don't peek at
my organization string though. :)

-- 
David Fox                       root@belvedere.sbay.org
5479 Castle Manor Drive
San Jose, CA 95129              Thanks for letting me change
408/253-7992                    magnetic patterns on your hard disk.

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.unixware
From: josv@inter.NL.net (Jos Vos)
Subject: How compatible is the DEC (Tandberg?) TZ10AA QIC-525 tape drive?
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 09:24:53 GMT

Someone offered me a DEC 1/4 inch SCSI tape drive TZ10AA for a nice price,
which should be a SCSI-II QIC-525 drive, probably made by Tandberg (Norway?).

I would like to get the following information on either this DEC drive,
or on the Tandberg QIC-525 drive, which is probably the same:

(1)  Does it read QIC-24, QIC-150, and QIC-525 format tapes, just like
     an Archive Viper 2525S?

(2)  Does it write QIC-150 and QIC-525 format tapes, just like an Archive
     Viper 2525S?

(3)  Does it work with Linux, UnixWare, Solaris, SCO and other serious
     PC-Unixes?  Especially, I want to know if it does NOT work with
     any serious PC-Unix?

(4)  Is the drive in any way incompatible with an Archive Viper 2525S?

Please supply me with any information you have on these topics.
I'm also interested in more details of the equivalent Tandberg drive
(e.g., the Tandberg drive number).

Please send your responses to me via e-mail.
Thanks.

-- 
--   Jos Vos   <josv@NL.net>

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From: pive@uia.ac.be (Pieter Verhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Bogomips really DON'T mean anything
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 09:27:22 GMT

Even worse, I have a Cyrix SLC486, with the cache enabled I have 
Bogomips=+/-7. After applying the Cyrix patch to the kernel, I have
Bogomips=3.67, and my system is faster: e.g. TeX compilation 7'->6'.
Then I recompiled the kernel without 486 optimization and Bogomips=3.61
and I gained a bit speed.
Can someone explain this?

=========================================================================
P. Verhaeghe
University of Antwerp,RUCA,Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Groenenborgerlaan 171                                  Tel: +32 3 2180376
B-2020 Antwerpen, Belgium                              Fax: +32 3 2180217

E-mail: pive@banruc60.bitnet (or pive@wins.uia.ac.be)
=========================================================================

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From: vera@fintronic.com (James Vera)
Subject: Re: Commercial Products for Linux????
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 04:11:58 GMT


noble@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Patrick Brewer) writes:


>       I am very curious about the answers to these questions. 

>       1. Are there any commercial products that will run under linux? 

Yes!  Fintronic sells a simulation environment that supports both
UDL/I and Verilog HDLs. UDL/I and Verilog are Hardware Description
Languages used by hardware designers to simulate hardware.  Please see
our recently submitted post to comp.os.linux.announce for more
details.

>       2. Is anyone working on commercial products for linux? 

Yes!  Besides our HDL tools, Fintronic sells pre-installed and fully
configured Linux workstations and laptops.  Please finger or send mail
to linux-sales@fintronic.com for more information.

>       3. Do you know of any businesses that use linux? 

We use Linux machines for development.

>       4. Does anyone have a way to guess the installed base of
Linux? 
>Especially compared to other unix type OS's for PC's. 

That I don't know...

---
Fintronic USA, Inc.
1360 Willow Rd., Suite 205
Menlo Park, CA 94025
USA



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From: pechter@i4got.lakewood.com (Bill Pechter)
Subject: Re: InfoMagic Linux CD
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:36:27 GMT

In article <1994Jan21.201358.6263@seas.smu.edu>,
Mario Nascimento <mario@seas.smu.edu> wrote:
>>As some may have discovered, there is a flaw in the December 1993 
>>InfoMagic Linux CD involving links between the sunsite and tsx-11
>>archive images on the CD.  I called InfoMagic about this and had 
>>my call returned by Kim at InfoMagic this morning who said that they
>>are aware of the problem and are already shipping replacements out
>>to those who ordered the CD.  If you've ordered one of these you 
>>might want to call and verify your shipping address with them.

Consider me another very satisfied customer.
I had problems reading the CD (turns out the Toshiba here's going bad on me) --
they shipped me a replacement disk, returned my phone calls promptly, worked 
with me on MY hardware problems. 

I can't overstate how great they are to deal with.  

I've also had good results with Trans-Ameritech (I've got their vol1 and vol2)
and Walnut Creek (Gnu, Simtel, Sources, FreeBSD 1.0).  My feeling is all these
folks have been quite good to deal with. 

I hope they can continue with their support of Free *nix systems because
for those of us without good internet connections -- they're a lifesaver.


Bill
-- 
===============================================================================
 Bill Pechter                 | The postmaster always pings twice.
 Lakewood MicroSystems        | 17 Meredith Drive,
 908-389-3592                 | Tinton Falls, NJ 07724       

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From: pechter@i4got.lakewood.com (Bill Pechter)
Subject: Re: Clock runs slow under Linux
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:41:35 GMT

In article <2hplsg$qlq@pdn.paradyne.com>,
Jim Kunzman <jdk001u@paradyne.com> wrote:
>I'm not sure whether others have experienced this, but my Linux
>machines lose about 3 minutes per day.

I have the same problem with Linux, interestingly enough, the same box is
rock solid to the minute with FreeBSD.

Anyone know what the difference is in the time handling.  Perhaps 
some of the Linux stuff ought to be compared with the BSD.

Bill 
-- 
===============================================================================
 Bill Pechter                 | The postmaster always pings twice.
 Lakewood MicroSystems        | 17 Meredith Drive,
 908-389-3592                 | Tinton Falls, NJ 07724       

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From: terence@hitech.po.my (Terence Tan)
Subject: WinSock/TCPIP Free
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 23:44:30 GMT

I am going to use linux as a mail server(Much better than
the windows NT). I am looking for a free TCP/IP stack for
dos/windows that supports WINSOCK. Does k9q do it?? Should
have packet driver support (to be able to cover a wide
varity of drives)
-- 
========================================================================
A4000/040/     Internet: terence@hitech.po.my        Terence Tan
120megs /                    /*/_\                    "Amiga Man" 
6 megs /                   \*/    \miga             Mostly Harmless .. 

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Would mailx+sendmail work over term?
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 02:02:18 GMT

In article <CK90Ko.FDr@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil>,
Ismail <et@madmax.aa.nps.navy.mil> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>I tried using mailx+sendmail with term but I did not
>get anywhere.  I got both of the binaries from
>sunsite.  mailx seems to work fine, but mails I sent
>are stored in the mail queue and stay there forever.
>I even could not get sendmail up running as a deamon.
>It executes without any error messages but I don't see
>it running with ps command.  Do I need to run anything
>else to be able to run it as a deamon? I do not have
>any network stuff like net-2 or uucp installed.
>
>I just used tredir 25 25 with term as stated in
>/etc/services.  My linux is pl10 and I am running on a
>486 machine.
>
>I would appreciate a short summary of what and what
>not to do's from someone out there who are using this
>combination.
>

This is what I received last week. Mail works like a champ. Good luck.
Also you need to get the term+mail package on sunsite to get mail
delivered to you via term.

BAJ
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From johannes@titan.os.open.de Thu Jan 20 20:06:40 EST 1994
Article: 3573 of comp.os.linux.admin
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Path: cc.gatech.edu!darwin.sura.net!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!Germany.EU.net!ruhr.de!larry.ms.open.de!Gaston.os.open.de!titan.os.open.de!johannes
From: johannes@titan.os.open.de (Johannes Stille)
Subject: Re: Howto do MAIL with TERM ?
References: <2hdosn$1e7l@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <1994Jan17.162522.19487@cc.gatech.edu>
Organization: Westfalens Internationaler Netzzugang
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 01:04:42 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jan20.010442.19800@titan.os.open.de>
Lines: 63

In article <1994Jan17.162522.19487@cc.gatech.edu> byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
>In article <2hdosn$1e7l@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>,  <root@softland> wrote:

[...]

It is possible with tredir 25 25, I actually have done this. But you
have to do a few other things as well:

[Note: My comments are in brackets - BAJ]
[Note: the file configs given here work as advertised]

-In your smail configuration, give "localhost" as smarthost.
-Use a smtp transport for the smail smarthost router.

>From my "routers" file:

smarthost:
        driver = smarthost,
        transport = termsmtp;
        path = localhost

>From my "transports" file:

termsmtp:
        driver = smtp,
        max_addrs = 32,
        -max_chars;

Probably you already have some kind of smtp transport that you can use
instead of this "termsmtp" transport.

-I might be missing some option for this transport to make it give up if
it can't connect to the smtp server. This is the case if after trying to
send mail without term running, the smail process stays around forever.

-Of course, you must not run an smtp server on your machine. Check
inetd.conf! [ VERY IMPORTANT. tredir won't be able to connect even when
run from root. Since port 25 is previledged it must be run as root. Either
su from the account running term, or set TERMDIR to get the right connection.] 

-If you try to send mail now, it should be spooled in the smail input
queue. You can check the queue with the "mailq" command. Is this queue
the "black hole" you mentioned? [YES! YES IT WAS!]

-When you have a term connection up, you can upload the mail with 
"tredir 25 25" or "tredir 25 your.smtp.server:25" and then "runq" to
tell smail to process its input queue.

-You also should check the From: address in outgoing mail. By default,
it will point to your local machine, and a simple reply will never reach
you, because your machine isn't known to the rest of the world. So maybe
you can tell smail that your machine is called (data from the original
poster as an example) "uncvx2.oit.unc.edu" and can use the user name
"brandon" on you home machine too. Otherwise, you should at least put a
Reply-to: header into every mail you send.
[I used the config program that comes with smail to set the visible_name
 to cc.gatech.edu so that all outgoing mail to be addressed as such.]

[ Hope this helps - Byron]


        Johannes


>tuncer
>
>
>


---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu

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From: ez023466@chip.ucdavis.edu (Me)
Subject: Re: Sounds for Mosaic in Linux
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 18:43:05 GMT

Well here it is...
showaudio

#! /bin/sh
cat $* >/dev/audio

(make it a file, chmod a+rx it and use it)
TaDa
(If you have a sound card installed it works perfectly..)
Later
Steve
sdwormley@ucdavis.edu



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From: cosc19v2@menudo.uh.edu (cosc19v2)
Subject: Re: Does the Mitsumi 2xSpeed CD-ROM work with Linux?
Date: 27 Jan 1994 22:09:43 -0600

In article <134514@hydra.gatech.EDU>,
Michael Knotts <ph281mk@prism.gatech.EDU> wrote:
>>Mitsumi's default is using INT10, my GUS uses INT11 default.
>>However, Linux assumes that CD ROM Drive is using INT11 default.
>
>>Is there anyone who resolved this problem ?
>
>I used a very simple fix...  Pull the Mitsumi controller board,
>re-configure the jumper for IRQ11 and also set the port address
>to Hex 320 (Important, since this is the Mitsumi CD driver default).
>The drive works like a charm.

Well ..., who does not know such method ?  8-)
The problem is that then I have to change the the GUS's default
INT11 to INT10 (or else). Then I have to re-setup many other DOS/WIN
programs.  This would be quite messy.

I think that it is odd  for linux to assume that Mitsumi must use
INT11.  It should have been in config.





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