Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #775
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Date:     Sat, 5 Mar 94 04:13:09 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #775, Volume #1                 Sat, 5 Mar 94 04:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: Panasonic 562 CD-ROM is NOT supported (Adam J. Richter)
  1280x1024, which VGA card to choose? (Jesper Honig Spring)
  Re: [ANSWER] Re: file system repair (in general and in particular e2fs) (Patrick Draper)
  Source for X Server ? (Vincent D'Haeyere)
  Re: GOD SPEAKS ON LINUX! (DOUGLAS M STEVENSON)
  Re: RFD: comp.os.linux.* moderation by program (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: [Q]: SMC ULTRA Ethernet card (Donald J. Becker)
  Re: The Linux C library 4.5.21 is on tsx-11.mit.edu. (Daniel Quinlan)
  Linux compatible SCSI-2 VESA cards? (ALAN CHEN)
  Re: AX.25 and Linux - my experience (Donald Jeff Dionne)
  Re: Smail security problems (HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED) (Clayton Haapala)
  Got my "Linux Journal"! (Phil Perucci)
  [Q] Serial Ports & MFM drives (Tom Webster)

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From: adam@netcom.com (Adam J. Richter)
Subject: Re: Panasonic 562 CD-ROM is NOT supported
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 02:59:24 GMT

In article <Feb.20.15.57.33.1994.13077@eden.rutgers.edu> luchihli@eden.rutgers.edu (Chili) writes:
>Hi.  I just got my Linux on a CD.  The boot disks supplied on the CD supported
>Sony 33A and the Misumi and some SCSI CD-ROMs.   But my Panasonic isn't listed so I had to install the program the semi-hard way.  I copy the WHOLE 80Megs worth of the data from the CD to the harddrive and ran the install from there.
>But I'm wondering if there is a patch for the cd_boot for the panasonic cd-rom yet.  if so where can I get it so I an make a new cd_boot disk?   

        You didn't mention whose distribution you were using, but since
you refer to "the boot disks supplied on the CD", you apparently are
not using our distribution, since we include the boot floppy.  The
Yggdrasil LGX distribution does include the driver for the Panasonic,
LaserMate, and Matsushita drives.  The one thing that you have to check
in our current release (Fall 1993), is that the CDROM must be set to be
drive 0.  From what I am told, Panasonic 562's and 562B's are already
shipped this way, but the new 563's are often shipped with their
switches set to drive 1.  Once you flip the appropriate switch,
the 563 works fine too.  In the next release, you will be able to
use any drive number.

-- 
Adam J. Richter                             Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
409 Evelyn Ave., Apt. 312, Albany CA 94706  PO Box 8418, Berkeley CA 94707-8418
(510) 528-3209                              (510) 526-7531, fax: (510) 528-8508
adam@netcom.com                             yggdrasil@netcom.com
Another member of the League for Programming Freedom (lpf@uunet.uu.net).

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From: spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring)
Subject: 1280x1024, which VGA card to choose?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:47:47 GMT

Hello,

I would like to run Linux with 1280x1024 resolution. Can anybody
recommend any for this task suitable vga card. Can Linux use
2Mb RAM on the vga card.

Thanks


-- 
  Jesper Honig Spring
  spring@diku.dk
  University of Copenhagen, DK
  Dep. of computer science  

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: pdrap@ctp.com (Patrick Draper)
Subject: Re: [ANSWER] Re: file system repair (in general and in particular e2fs)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:44:00 GMT

In article <2klu8h$31d@vishnu.jussieu.fr> card@masi.ibp.fr (Remy CARD) writes:
>In article <2kku62$ksa@rug101.cs.rug.nl>,
>Paul G. Lucassen <lucassen@cs.rug.nl> wrote:
>] Hello all,
>] 
>]      *HOW* does one repair one's file system?
>
>       Usually by running a file system checker :-)

I have found that a much more reliable method is to re-install. Not
desirable, but effective.

>
>       Well, the wrong answer to every e2fsck question is `n'.  When e2fsck
>offers to correct an error, you'd better let him do it.

I've screwed up my filesystem twice now, and e2fsck reported only a couple
things wrong with the filesystem. When I had e2fsck repair the problems,
the list became bigger. After running it again, the list was even bigger.
Well, you get the idea. I decided that re-installing was easier. After all,
if I ran e2fsck 30 times or so and cleaned everything up, how in the hell
do I know if all the files are still there?

Is there a newer version of e2fsck that works better? I'm using the one that
comes with the SLS 1.03 package.


 /\/\ |Patrick Draper                        Mr. Order, he runs at a|
/ /_.\|Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc.      good pace, but old  |
\  /./|e-mail: pdrap@ctp.com                      Mother chaos is   |
 \/\/ |Lansing, Michigan                          winning the race. |


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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 12:34:07 +0100
From: vdh@info.fundp.ac.be (Vincent D'Haeyere)
Subject: Source for X Server ?

Hi all,

I would like to get hold of source for a X server, i.e. the source for the
SVGA server in XFree-2.0.

Can anyone tell me where to find this code ?

Hope to ear from you soon !

Vincent D'Haeyere

=============================================================================
Vincent D'Haeyere
Student in Computer Science (4th)
Institut d'Informatique
Faculte Notre Dame de La Paix, Namur (Belgium)

E-mail : vdh@info.fundp.ac.be

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From: dstevens@calc26.mps.ohio-state.edu (DOUGLAS M STEVENSON)
Subject: Re: GOD SPEAKS ON LINUX!
Date: 4 Mar 1994 01:55:13 GMT

Alain Picard (apicard@estsa3.estec.esa.nl) wrote:
> >>>>> "Chris" == Chris Royle <car1002@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes:

> Chris> God (God@Up.There.Above) wrote:
> >> THIS IS THE VOICE OF THE LORD!

> Chris> In the words of Queen Victoria, "We are not amused". Now get
> Chris> lost you sad wanker, and stop wasting bandwidth that a lot of
> Chris> people have to pay for.

> Rubbish. We *are* amused.  It was a good hack, that makes
> it OK in _my_ book.

Good hack, maybe....but it was posted to the WRONG newsgroup!

> (yes, I know this message costs hundreds, if not thousands of dollars! :-)

Uh huh!

Doug

--
I don't have time to write a signature.

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From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)
Crossposted-To: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.os.linux.* moderation by program
Date: 4 Mar 1994 22:57:46 GMT
Reply-To: cougnenc@itesec.ensta.fr (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave John Stanley ecrit:

> In article <2l6ac7$3md@renux.frmug.fr.net>,
> Rene COUGNENC <cougnenc@itesec.ensta.fr> wrote:
> >Try to figure that in the world, not everyone is an American student
> >in some university, getting Internet for free :-)

> When you make stupid assumptions about people based on where they post
> from, you make yourself look like a fool. When you refer to USENET as
> "Internet" you make yourself look even stupider.

Have a drink, a good lunch, and try to smile sometimes, if you can :-)

I started using Linux whith version 0.12. I also started reading the
alt group, the first historical Linux group.

I *never* posted anything the first yeari 1/2, because of too many posts 
like yours... Seemed like another planet to me... !

Now that I have more time, I decided to start posting when I can help,
and the result is very discouraging, I get too many stupid reactions
like that, mostly in mail, and quoting it entirely (To pay it twice...).

I'm sorry to seem stupid for you, but I never said that Usenet was Internet,
and most flaming mail received when I help someone comes from some university 
somewhere in the world, posted by people having probably nothing better
to do.

I don't know how you live the "linux world", but for many of linux users
here, Linux is a great experience, Linux is fun, and we have set in the
french hierarchy of Usenet a fr.comp.os.linux group, in which we have
fun. This avoids posting to the world-wide Linux groups and getting all
the stupids flamewars. 

More than that, the most serious Linux questions are not discussed in
the newsgroup, but in restaurants; a good meal and a good bottle of
wine are a good start for talking about Linux !

So for now, I'll stop losing time posting and losing money getting these
megabytes of news; this is not really useful.. I have posted my understan-
ding of the proposal, just to point the fact that there are much more
users concerned by it than the little initiatic group discussing it here,
now I can be off all this stuff... One article is enough I think.

My glass is empty, this is what is important. 
If I can't find Mr Jack Daniels, I'll ask to J&B to fix this bug :-))


PS: Follow-up redirected to a group that most people don't read, to encourage
    to stop this totally stupid thread, if this can help...
--
 linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux 

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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
Subject: Re: [Q]: SMC ULTRA Ethernet card
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 05:37:27 GMT

In article <1994Mar2.123115@rzri6f.gsi.de>,
Gabor Papp <papp@rzri6f.gsi.de> wrote:
>I just had bad experience with the new SMC ULTRA cards with the NCSA telnet
>software for PC. (The configuration is totally changed compared to the WD8003)
>Has anybody any experience with Linux? (8003 worked fine, but can the kernel
>handle the SMC ULTRA?)

The SMC Ultra (aka SMC Elite Ultra) is not the same as the WD8013 (aka SMC
Elite).  There is a separate Linux driver for the Ultra.

-- 

Donald Becker                                          becker@super.org
IDA Supercomputing Research Center
17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715                        301-805-7482

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From: quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu (Daniel Quinlan)
Subject: Re: The Linux C library 4.5.21 is on tsx-11.mit.edu.
Date: 03 Mar 1994 21:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu


Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.west.oic.com> writes:

> It seems silly to move something that a huge number of executables
> in / require to what is most likely a different partition on many
> systems.  So now you have to have two reliable partitions to do
> anything instead of one?  That's silly!

There shouldn't be anything in the root partition that requires
libm.so.x.y.  If you refer to libc.so.x.y, it has not been removed
from /lib.  Only libm has been moved.

> My root partition is much, much safer then any other partition
> because virtually no files are created, written to, or otherwise
> modified on it.  I've been able to shift most of the volatile files
> onto /var (with a partial mirror in the root to allow an emergency
> boot without mounting /var), and what few remain are hardly ever
> touched.  From my point of view, putting the shared libs on the root
> partition is the SAFEST thing you can possibly do with them.

You only need one demand paged shared library on the root partition.
That is /lib/libc.so.x.y.  The safety of the root partition is not
just a function of writing/creating/modifying, but also size.  The
larger the root partition is, the greater the chance for a random
error to occur on it.

There are other reasons to reduce the size of the root partition, such
as allowing for diskless systems which can then mount /usr via NFS.

There are 1.5 megs of demand paged shared libraries (.so files) on my
system, not including libm.so.x.y and libc.so.x.y.  Why would you want
to increase the size of root by 1.5 megs for things which are not
needed for anything on your root partition?  It is much more sensible
to move them all to /usr/lib (and /usr/X386/lib).

Dan

--
Daniel Quinlan  <quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu>

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From: achen1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (ALAN CHEN)
Subject: Linux compatible SCSI-2 VESA cards?
Date: 4 Mar 94 10:33:06 PST

I am trying to install Linux to my system which unfortunately has an Adaptec
AHA-2842/VLB SCSI card in it at the moment.  I am searching for a replacement
SCSI-2 card that is both supported by Linux and is also local bus.  Any 
suggestions out there?  I've read all the docs on my Linux CD and they don't 
seem to mention if any of the SCSI cards are VESA.  Of course this may mean
that none are, but I hope not. Thanks.

Alan Chen                 |"No matter where you go, there you are"
-Aerospace eng. undergrad |              -Buckaroo Banzai
-RPG player               |Yes, I'm an ARO.  No, I'm not transferring!
-Dreamer                  |Phone: (909) 595 1850


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From: jeff@ee.ryerson.ca (Donald Jeff Dionne)
Subject: Re: AX.25 and Linux - my experience
Date: 3 Mar 1994 21:53:53 GMT

Ian Chard (chardi@cs.man.ac.uk) wrote:
: Hi,

: A few days ago I posted a question about AX.25 and Linux - various people asked
: me to post my findings, so here goes.  Please don't have a go at me re: my lack
: of knowledge of the Linux kernel; although I've been Linuxing for quite a
: while, my knowledge of the kernel is fairly limited.

: This is how I got KISS encapsulated AX.25 TCP/IP working on Linux 0.99-pl15.
: Note that some of this is conjecture; i.e. it seems to work :-)

: 1. ftp the AX.25 patches from sunacm.swan.ac.uk:/pub/misc/Linux/Radio/AX25012
:    (there may be a later revision than 12).

cool.


: 2. Unpack the new files in the Linux source tree - there are a few in net/inet,
:    and one in include/linux.

: 3. Do a 'mknod /dev/af_ax25 c 30 0' (I don't know if this is actually necessary).


No.  You don't need to do that

: 4. Edit drivers/net/slip.c.  Search for ax25_test, and change the callsign therein
:    to your own.  For example, for my call (G7OMZ-5):



No.  Your callsign is used when you use the axattach program.  

:    static char ax25_test[7]={'G'<<1,'7'<<1,'O'<<1,'M'<<1,'Z'<<1,' '<<1,'5'<<1};

Ignore this


: 5. The next bit is quite hacky.  There is an implementation of KISS encapsulation
:    in slip.c, but by default it isn't enabled.  I couldn't figure out how to make
:    a SIOCSIFENCAP ioctl() call (I didn't know what to give it as a file descriptor),
:    so I just hard-wired it to set all SLIP channels to SL_MODE_AX25 in
:    sl_initialize().  Of course, this won't do if you use SLIP for anything else,
:    so you'll have to hack around in slip_init().  There's a call to sl_initialize()
:    in there, so you'll have to test for certain interfaces and set SL_MODE_AX25
:    accordingly.  I don't know enough about the kernel to comment.

No.  This will break normal SLIP.  Again, axattach will take care of it.


: 6. Edit config.in, and search for CONFIG_PLIP.  Add a line above it:

:    bool 'AX.25 (KISS) encapsulation support' CONFIG_AX25 y


this is cool.  Remember to add the objects to the net/inet Makefile...

: 7. make mrproper ; make config ; make dep ; make zImage, then install the new kernel
:    as per usual and reboot.  Fingers crossed!

cool.

: 8. When the system comes back up, create a file containing the following commands:

:       port ttyS2
:       speed 9600
:       term
:       local 44.131.1.254
:       remote 44.131.1.57
:       mode SLIP

:    Replace ttyS2 with the port your TNC is connected to, and the local IP address
:    should be your own.  The remote IP address should be either the nearest
:    neighbour through whom you want to route, or your local subnet (mine is
:    44.131.1.0).


No.  Don't do that.  The dip program is for dial in SLIP.  it has nothing to 
do with AX.25, and in order to make it use KISS and AX.25, you will have to
break slip.c is in above.  Just type

axattach <yourcallsign>

: 9. Type 'dip filename'.  You'll be in terminal mode with your TNC.  Put it into
:    KISS mode (usually 'kiss on') and type a ^].  This should set everything up
:    for you.

Put your TNC in kiss mode before you type axattach.  Again, don't use dip.
It's for phone modems and SLIP, not KISS.

: 10. If you type /etc/ifconfig, you should see two messages; one for the loopback
:     device 'lo', and one for 'sl0'.  If you type /etc/route, you should see that
:     there is now an entry for 'sl0'.  You can either make this your default
:     router (as you would do if there is an Internet gateway nearby) with:

:       /etc/route add default gw 44.131.1.57

:     ...or (more likely) you will only want to route ampr.org packets through it,
:     which will look like:

:       /etc/route add 44.0.0.0 gw 44.131.1.57

cool


: 11. That's it!  You can now add those commands to your /conf/net/rc.inet[12]
:     files to set it up at boot time.

: Cheers,

: Ian.

: -- 

: [ Ian Chard, Systems Integration |  To sculpt an elephant, obtain a large     ]
: [ Email:       flup@cs.man.ac.uk |  block of marble and remove all the bits   ]
: [ NTS: G7OMZ @ GB7CRG.#16.GBR.EU |  that don't resemble an elephant.          ]
: [ AMPRnet:  g7omz@g7omz.ampr.org |                                  -- Anon   ]


I think an FAQ is in order.  It's not that Ian has done anything horrible,
just that he's taken the long way around.  Also, if you do it that way,
SLIP will probabily be broken, and there is no need to break anything.

quickly, do this.


1. Get BOTH  ax25krnl.tgz and ax25user.tgz from sunacm.swan.ac.uk

2. unpack the source for ax25krnl.  It will put stuff in net/inet and the 
   include dir.

3. add the objects to the net/inet makefile

4. add a CONFIG_AX25 line to config.in 

5. make clean
   make config
   make dep
   make zImage

   do the lilo thing.

6. edit the ports file that came with ax25user.tgz  (Read the README).

7. axattach comes in ax25user.tgz

   axattach /dev/ttyS? <yourcallsign>

8. do the route add thing, and the arp add thing.


Now also in ax25user are connected mode ax.25 apps.  They will work too,
but only of you edit the ports file.  This way, SLIP will not be broken.

I will create an FAQ ASAP.  Perhaps
Alan would like to do that, since it's his code.

73! de Jeff / VE3DJF

Jeff@EE.Ryerson.Ca

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: clay@haapi.mn.org (Clayton Haapala)
Subject: Re: Smail security problems (HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:33:01 GMT

In article <JEW.94Mar3113122@linux.anthro.arizona.edu>,
 <jew@linux.anthro.arizona.edu> wrote:
>smail should not be SUID root, but SGID mail.

Smail is designed specifically to be SUID root.
-- 
Clay Haapala                    "Well, there was the process of sitting around
clay@haapi.mn.org                and wishing I had more computer stuff."
                                        -- Dilbert

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From: philp@universe.digex.net (Phil Perucci)
Subject: Got my "Linux Journal"!
Date: 4 Mar 1994 19:35:47 -0500

The long wait is over.  My first issue of "Linux Journal" came in
the mail today!  I understand they have over 22,000 subscribers!

This is a Good Thing (tm)!

-- 
==============================================================================
 Phil Perucci             | "All postings are my own opinion - all comments
 Systems Programmer       |  are intended for research/educational purposes"
==============================================================================

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From: webster@kaiwan.com (Tom Webster)
Subject: [Q] Serial Ports & MFM drives
Date: 4 Mar 1994 14:35:33 -0800

Hi,

A couple of quick questions:

(1) How well does the XT driver handle MFM drives on a 16bit 
controller?  Am thinking of moving an old "El-Cheapo" 386sx to
Linux to act as a network node.  I have the opportunity to by some 
used MFM drives cheap and am wondering if I should do it, or bite 
the bullet and add an AHA1522A and a SCSI drive instead.

Is the driver stable?
Can it be reliably booted from?

(2) In order to test my multi-port (4) serial board running on a 
single IRQ, I was thinking of connecting it back on itself (i.e. 
port 1 to port 2, port 3 to port 4).  Then log in from one end of 
each of the connections.  In the fist instance, I was planning on 
cat'ing /dev/zero at the highest possible connect speed getty 
could support on the line.  Then I was going to log into the 
second loop and see how fast I could drive all four ports without 
hick-ups.

Am I crazy?  Will this tell me anything, or have I missed 
something obvious?

Has anyone else out there tried this?  It should just be a matter 
of running getty on the two receiving ports, right?

Tom
-- 
| Tom Webster                    | "Funny, I've never seen it   |
| webster@kaiwan.com (home)      | do THAT before...."          |
| webster@ssdgwy.mdc.com  (work) | - Any user support person    |
| finger -l webster@kaiwan.com to get my PGP Public Key.        |

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