Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #784
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Linux-Misc Digest #784, Volume #1                 Mon, 7 Mar 94 13:13:20 EST

Contents:
  Re: OS/2 HPFS mount--no upper case (Chris Smith)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (J.J. Paijmans)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  Linux and my modem ignore each other. (Winnie-the-Pooh)
  Re: how do I uncompress .z files (Kevin Lentin)
  Adaptec 1542B BIOS upgrade? (Phil Perucci)
  Re: Smail security problems (HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED) (Alan Cox)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Alan Cox)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Richard L. Goerwitz)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Daniel Barlow)
  Re: [Q]Why 'perf' is not working, or how do I use it? (John R. Moseby)
  Re: libm.so.4.5.21 in /usr/lib ?? (H.J. Lu)
  Re: "Reverse-engineering" (David Wright)
  ncurses problem (Bryan Zarnett)
  Re: OpenGL on Linux? (Brian Hook)

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From: csmith@convex.com (Chris Smith)
Subject: Re: OS/2 HPFS mount--no upper case
Date: 7 Mar 1994 11:14:09 GMT

   From: wkn@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ken Neighbors)
   Date: 7 Mar 1994 07:46:22 GMT

   I mounted an os/2 hpfs partition. and all the files are in lower case.
   This is bad for me.  I have LaTeX files that read *.pic files and *.eps
   files and the file names are mixed upper/lower case.  Is this going to
   be fixed?

Mount the partition with option "case=asis".  

The *.pic and *.eps names will match independent of case, like they do
under os/2.  E.g., "\input FooFile.EpS" will match 'foofile.eps' on an
hpfs partition.

case=asis only affects ls and the like.

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From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 10:43:11 GMT

In article <KAYVAN.94Mar6220039@satyr.Sylvan.COM> kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) writes:
>>>>>> "J" == J J Paijmans <paai@kub.nl> writes:
>
>>> Oh boy, my first chance to tell people to read the faq =).  Its a 
>>> question on the faq and it gives the pronunciation to be like minix
>>> if I remember correctly.  Anyways...later...
>
>J> Uh... how do you pronounce 'minix...'?  :-) Paai
>
>Like "My Nykes". :-)

Uh... just one question...
Paai.




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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 11:03:02 GMT

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.


Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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From: haijo@cs.rug.nl (Winnie-the-Pooh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,rug.linux
Subject: Linux and my modem ignore each other.
Date: 7 Mar 1994 13:12:55 +0100


Hi,

I've a problem with my fax/modem & Linux. I've an internal modem, 14k4, v32.bis
(Zoltrix). It's installen on com4, hence /dev/modem is linked to /dev/cua3.

Using the modem from DOS gives absolutely no problems. However, Linux
can't talk to it. When I first installed Linux I had kernel 0.99.6, and
the modem worked fine. Later I upgraded a few times, 0.99.12, 0.99.14,
0.99.15, and they all refuse to talk to the modem.

If I start kermit, set the line (/dev/cua3), modem-type and speed, and 
then type connect, one second later I get the error
Cannot read character, I/O error, back to local Unix system.

Using cu -l /dev/cua3 gives
Connected
<BEEP> Got hangup signal


IRQ level is set right. (I did run setserial). I fiddled with the switches
on the modem, but that doesn't help either. I removed the devices
/dev/cua3 and /dev/ttyS3 and made them again, both with MAKEDEV and
by hand, but that doesn't help either.

I expect it is a Linux bug, since the modem works fine under DOS (I can
login on modem servers, use kermit/zmodem, send and receive faxs with
no problems).

Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? I'm getting desperate (and want to
get rid of my DOS partition; the only reason I still have it is to use
my modem....)



Haijo.


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From: kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: how do I uncompress .z files
Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:57:49 GMT

On Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:45:22 GMT, Jesper Honig Spring wrote:
> Hello

> Can anyone tell me how to uncompress files named .z

gunzip.

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From: philp@universe.digex.net (Phil Perucci)
Subject: Adaptec 1542B BIOS upgrade?
Date: 7 Mar 1994 08:07:50 -0500

Does anyone have recent experience upgrading the BIOS on their 1542B?
My system works fine now running Slacware 1.1.2, but I wanted to upgrade
my BIOS just to stay current.   

I read in comp.periphs.scsi that Adaptec says when you upgrade you should:

  1) Reformat
  2) If running Unix, disable the BIOS.

Are EITHER of these really needed for Linux?  Anyone with "hands-on"
experience upgrading their Adaptec 1542B who cares to comment would
really help...

-- 
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 Phil Perucci             | "All postings are my own opinion - all comments
 Systems Programmer       |  are intended for research/educational purposes"
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Smail security problems (HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:35:39 GMT


If you are worried about incoming mail security then one nice cure for
external sendmail attack is this

Check out TIS/Marcus Ranum's firewall package, available via anonymous
FTP from ftp.tis.com, for smap/smapd:

        smap - sendmail wrapper.

        the object of this program is to allow us to present an SMTP service
        for people to talk to, which is unprivileged, and runs in a chrooted
        directory. a secondary requirement is that the code be as simple as
        possible, to permit manual review. this code, therefore, contains
        no comments other than this one - comments being an indication that
        code is too complex to be trusted.



Alan
iiitac@pyr.swan.ac.uk


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From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: 6 Mar 1994 23:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: cougnenc@itesec.ensta.fr (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave Mark A. Davis ecrit:

> >Linux is then /'li:nuks/ or "Lee-nooks".
> >The vocal quality of "u" can vary in much the same way "u" does. Hope
> >this helps :-)

> Well, I have to agree with previous the previous poster pointing out how
> incredibly awkward that is for English speakers :)  I'm glad to know
> what the most "proper" way is to say it, but I think I will have to
> continue calling it  /'Lie-nucks/.  Besides, it matches the English 


For French-speaking people, the right pronounciation for "Linux" is
more natural. But anyway, everyone pronounces the "ux" the french way :-)

(Another sound not existing in English, BTW...)
--
 linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux 

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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:52:14 GMT

In article <2lcjkk$3rl@mips.ruessel.sub.org> naddy@mips.ruessel.sub.org (Christian Weisgerber) writes:
>(and Linux') name should suffer distortion from the English sound shift,
>i.e. the i like in "linear" seems more appropriate. Actually, we Germans
>always use a long i like in "even" which I'd favor in general.

Why doesn't someone record Linus and put the word up for ftp as a .au file ?

Alan


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From: goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:02:03 GMT

naddy@mips.ruessel.sub.org (Christian Weisgerber) writes:
>
>Considering that Linus is Finnish of Swedish decent, I don't see why his
>(and Linux') name should suffer distortion from the English sound shift,
>i.e. the i like in "linear" seems more appropriate. Actually, we Germans
>always use a long i like in "even" which I'd favor in general.

The first vowel in _even_ is not appreciably longer than the i-vowel in
_linear_.  The difference is primarily one of tongue position and mode
of articulation.  Germans may perhaps perceive it as a difference of len-
gth, because length is important in their language (e.g. Mann, man), but
this is not what is really going on in English.

Linux does not suffer distortion from any English sound shift, by the way.
Every language has its Sprachgefuehl, and Linus's pronunciation of Linux
happens to violate the English Sprachgefuehl.  What happens when an English
speaker hears the word is that he reconfigures it to match normal English
sound patterns.  All speakers of all languages do this.  For example, if a
German borrows an English word containing an "dark" l (more like the Rus-
sian l), he or she subconsciously replaces this dark l with a "light" l,
unless of course he is being ridiculously precise.

It is possible for an English speaker to pronounce _Linux_ correctly.  But
it doesn't sound "right."  And it seems "hard to say."  Really, it doesn't
matter all that much, though.  Harping on people for saying a word this way
or that is just too typical of this forum....

-- 

   -Richard L. Goerwitz              goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
   goer@midway.uchicago.edu          rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer

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From: Daniel.Barlow@sjc.oxford.ac.uk (Daniel Barlow)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 14:32:56 GMT

ymy@johann.engin.umich.edu (Yumin Yang) writes:

> How should I pronunce the letter "i" in "linux", like the one in "line" or
> the one in "linear"?  Thanks.

RTFAQ.  Unless this question has been removed and I haven't noticed,
it's answered there.

The answer, by the way, is 'like the one in "linear"'

-- 
Daniel.Barlow@sjc.ox.ac.uk              dbarlow@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk

"He'd never wanted much, except perhaps to be left alone and not woken up
 until midday"                          -- Moving Pictures, Terry Pratchett

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: ka4smc@myhost.subdomain.domain (John R. Moseby)
Subject: Re: [Q]Why 'perf' is not working, or how do I use it?
Reply-To: moseby@bnr.ca
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 03:41:05 GMT

James M. Zhu (jaz@physics.ucf.edu) wrote:
: every time I trying to run the 'perf' , it will return the 
: message "lost connection" why is that? how do I use the 'perf'
: correctly?

: thanks

: min zhu

: -- 
: **********************************$$*******************************************
: *       James Zhu               $$$$$$             Finger me for sure         *
: * jaz@phys.physics.ucf.edu    $$$ || $$$      If I'm the right guy for you!!  *
: *******************************************************************************

From the man page it appears that you need the rstatd daemon running.
I get the same message when I run it, however it works fine when I tell
it to look at a HP machine at work.

I use slackware 1.1.2 and it appearently doesn't include rstatd.  I see that
the net disks have been updated as of Feb 18, but I don't know if rstatd
is in the update.

Hope this helps,
John
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From: hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: libm.so.4.5.21 in /usr/lib ??
Date: 7 Mar 1994 03:43:44 GMT

Simon A Langley (slangley@constant.demon.co.uk) wrote:

: : Yes, but there are also those of us out here using the SysVinit of various
: : persuasions and that makes quite heavy use of awk during the various rc
: : scripts and that gets REALLY grumpy if it can't find the maths lib! For that

: I faced the same problem, but all I did was get a recent binary of gawk, and
: use that.  My libm is in /usr/lib, where (I think) it belongs.

I have moved libm back to /lib for the next release.

H.J.

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From: dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "Reverse-engineering"
Date: 7 Mar 94 14:23:06 GMT

>>>>> "magnus" == magnus  <magnus@ii.uib.no> writes:

  magnus> Scenario A.

  magnus> Company Gadgets Inc needs a program to manage their document database.
  magnus> They have a big Unix box running a generix Unix variant. They hire a
  magnus> programmer to do the programming. The programmer buys a proprietary
  magnus> database engine and customizes it for keeping documents. He then
  magnus> programs a user interface in C++ for Windows. It takes months, but
  magnus> it's a satisfactory solution and the programmers gets paid. Well.

  magnus> Company Widgets Inc also needs such a database. They hire the same
  magnus> programmer. The programmer buys the same database engine. The
  magnus> programmer does the same customizing. The programmer programs the same
  magnus> user interface as in Gadgets Inc. He gets paid again. Well.

        1) Programmer earns 2 * rate
        2) Gadgets Inc. has a technical edge until the time Widgets Inc. gets
           the same program (which a typical non-compete clause would further
           delay).

  magnus> Scenario B.

  magnus> Company Gagets Inc needs a program to manage their document database.
  magnus> There is such a program available, free, but like much free software
  magnus> it is not quite satisfactory. It is not terribly efficient, and the
  magnus> user interface is text-only. Someone wrote it in his spare time. The
  magnus> company hires a programmer. The programmer improves on the memory
  magnus> allocation and builds a user interface for X-Windows. The improvements
  magnus> are then sent back to the maintainer of the code and integrated in the
  magnus> normal release. The programmer still gets paid well.

        1) He is now only getting 1 * rate, not as good

  magnus> Company Widgets Inc also needs such a databaser. They hire the same
  magnus> programmer. He grabs a copy of the program he made for Gadgets Inc and
  magnus> configures it for the needs of Widgets Inc. Takes him five minutes.

        2) He is only getting 1/20th the billable time, if it only took
           him 1 hour in the first case. Even less if it took him longer.
        3) Gadgets Inc. lost it's "competitive edge" faster in this scenario,
           as their competitors were free to use the same tools they had
           available to them. In effect, Gadgets Inc paid for the very tool
           that Widgets Inc picked up gratis.

  magnus> Because FSF release it as they change it. If you wanted a stable GCC
  magnus> you would use v1.x.x. As of now 2.5.8 is considered a stable release.
  magnus> Ever wonder why GCC is better than all those commercial compilers?

        GCC is better because more people work on it and use it (and complain
about it). No single company could devote the R&D towards a compiler that
GCC receives at no cost. This is one of the main advantages of "free" software.

  magnus> Tell me about a C compiler that has better ANSI compliance than GCC.

        SAS/C? (Don't know, just guessing. At the time I had my Amiga, SAS/C
*did* have better ANSI compliance (at least for the functions *I* was using)).


                                                        Dave

(Every piece of software *I* have written was released either under the GPL
or a GPL-like source license, so don't think I am against the idea of such..)
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From: bzarnett@jupiter.scs.Ryerson.CA (Bryan Zarnett)
Subject: ncurses problem
Date: 7 Mar 1994 16:35:02 GMT

In writing a program with ncurses it seems that when I activate noecho(),
and keypad that it does not respond to the arrow and function keys, but when
I comment it out it work fine...I just downloading 1.85 or whatever the 
newest version is..is this problem fixed??

- Bryan


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From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.opengl
Subject: Re: OpenGL on Linux?
Date: 07 Mar 1994 17:09:14 GMT

In article <philip-070394154017@mackerel.cs.wits.ac.za> philip@cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick) writes:
>   Correct except for 1 point: the educational licence is $500 but doesn't
>   permit redistribution. I doubt very much that SGI would want a "free"
>   version of OpenGL to exist though presumably since the spec is published
>   there's nothing to stop someone from rolling their own. Isn't it fun how
>   tightly controlled proprietery products have the word "Open" in their name?

Bzzzt.  SGI has stated publically (and privately) that litigation was
definitely an option and in their best interests if someone uses their API
to create a new product.  Go figure.  Now an API is copyrightable.  *sigh*

Brian

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bwh@cis.ufl.edu   | networking, simulation, and physics?  Marketing.

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