Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #807
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Date:     Sun, 13 Mar 94 13:16:31 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #807, Volume #1                Sun, 13 Mar 94 13:16:31 EST

Contents:
  STRAW POLL: Linux groups automonitoring (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)

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Crossposted-To: news.groups,comp.os.linux.announce,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Subject: STRAW POLL: Linux groups automonitoring
Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 17:52:38 GMT

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                        STRAW POLL (Last Call)
                     Linux groups automonitoring

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, Thu 17 March 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposal contact Ian Jackson <iwj@cam-orl.co.uk>.


 PROPOSAL (Ian)

 I propose to set up an auto-response daemon which will scan the
 newsgroups  comp.os.linux.misc, .help, .development and .admin.

 It will send email to the posters of any messages which either
  (a) do not include one of a set or recognised keywords in the
      Keywords line or
  (b) are crossposted between two or more of the groups listed above,
      without a Followup-To header being used to direct followups
      into no more than one of those groups (plus perhaps one or more
      groups outside the comp.os.linux hierarchy).

 The email will be a brief, friendly introduction to the newsgroup in
 question and the hierarchy in general - probably based on Matt Welsh's
 introduction to the comp.os.linux hierarchy and my daily postings in
 comp.os.linux.misc and .help.

 It will say where the FAQs are, why to read them, and where to get
 them.

 It will also say why the message has been sent to the user, and give a
 brief explanation of why Keywords are a good thing and/or why
 crossposting is a bad thing (as appropriate).

 I would determine the set of allowable keywords with assistance from
 the Linux community; I expect the set to change quite frequently, and
 there to be a dozen or two at most.

 The existence of my daemon would be documented in a regular posting to
 the groups (preferably as part of an existing regular posting).

 Note that this proposal will NOT prevent anyone from posting and does
 not involve marking the groups as moderated.                         
                                                                      
 I hope to be able to provide an email-to-news gateway that will be   
 allow users with retarded software to post with Keywords lines.      


 RATIONALE (Ian)

 During the recent discussion in news.groups regarding my original
 proposal to moderate col.* using a program, several people suggested
 that perhaps many of the "poor" posts do not come from first-time
 posters, and that therefore it would be sufficient to send email to
 posters whose postings did not have one of a set of approved keywords.

 Doing so would allow experienced users to start using killfiles to
 read only postings they believe they would find interesting, based on
 keywords, since any users posting without such keywords would be
 informed by the daemon that and why their posting might not get the
 attention they would wish for it.


HOW TO REPLY

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a
YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against
automonitoring as described above for that particular group.  If
you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space
blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote
characters (">") that your reply inserts.

Then mail the ballot to:    voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
linux automoderation poll Ballot    <luxp-0001> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

Use YES or NO for each group to indicate support or opposition to
automonitoring for that group as described in the proposal above.

[Your Vote]  Group
=======================================================================
[         ]  comp.os.linux.misc
[         ]  comp.os.linux.help
[         ]  comp.os.linux.admin
[         ]  comp.os.linux.development
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one ballot per person and per account will be counted.  All
names, addresses, and votes are public.


linux automoderation poll - I have votes from the following as of
March 12.  If you're in here you don't need to vote again.
==============================================================================
63912i@cfi.waseda.ac.jp                                     Alexander D\"uring
a.triulzi@ic.ac.uk                                              Arrigo Triulzi
abragad@DI.UniPi.IT                                                           
adam@netcom.com                                                Adam J. Richter
adriano@leland.Stanford.EDU                                            azevedo
ajake@snafu.muncca.fi                                             Jarkko Aitti
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx                                 Eugenio Sanchez
Alec.Muffett@UK.Sun.COM          Alec Muffett - Sun IS -  System Administrator
alex@amnaas.oss.nl                                                 Alex Sorell
allender@vnet.IBM.COM                                            Mark Allender
ampe91@control.auc.dk                                               A. Majland
andras@cs.wits.ac.za                                          Andr\'as Salamon
andreas@knobel.knirsch.de                                        Andreas Klemm
Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl                                         Andries Brouwer
andy@sysc.pdx.edu                                             Andrew M. Fraser
aoppelt@scr.siemens.com                                           Achim Oppelt
arras@forwiss.uni-erlangen.de                                    Michael Arras
b16ryf@isbe.ch                                                         Urs Ryf
badri@sofia.tn.cornell.edu                             Badrinarayanan Seshadri
bap@scr.siemens.com                                          Barak Pearlmutter
bart@pdn.paradyne.com                                          Warren Bartlett
bde@halcyon.com                                               Bruce D. Elliott
bet@std.sbi.com                                                   Bennett Todd
bob@amscons.amscons.com                                            Bob Amstadt
bobt@nova.net.com                                                Bob Tykulsker
brandon@uncvx2.oit.unc.edu                                   Brandon Van Every
bseller@shlneth.demon.co.uk                                        Brad Seller
buckel@linuxbox.incubus.sub.org                             Bernhard H. Buckel
butler@cs.tulane.edu                                              Larry Butler
byerr@netcom.com                                                      Ben Byer
byron@cc.gatech.edu                                              Byron A. Jeff
canver@ares.informatik.uni-ulm.de                              Ercument Canver
cascio@comet.ENET.dec.com                                          Pete Cascio
ccourts@netcom.com                                              Charles Courts
cdent@yod.honors.indiana.edu                                        Chris Dent
cgschott@psu.edu                                                   Carl Schott
chan1355@cs.cuhk.hk                                              Chan C O Alex
charding@turing.raynet.com                                       Chuck Harding
chris@sartre.ads.com                                      Christopher A. Smith
chris@surfcty.com                                            Chris D. Johnston
chuck@cmhcsys.com                                        Charles A. Stickelman
claussen@db.fmi.uni-passau.de                                    Jens Claussen
cornec@stna7.stna.dgac.fr                                               cornec
CPRAKT2@acpx1.exp.univie.ac.at                                 Markus Milleder
crawdad@smerdis.ccqc.uga.edu                                T. Daniel Crawford
creedonn@ul.ie                                                   Niall Creedon
csc2cwh@cabell.vcu.edu                                       Christopher Hicks
cse.unl.edu!wayne%backbone.UUCP                                  Wayne Schlitt
cwh@gtech.com                                           Charles W. Harwell III
dal@vanbc.wimsey.com                                                 Dale Lutz
dan@oea.hacktic.nl                                                    Dan Naas
danielsi@cs.utexas.edu                                   Daniel Supernaw-Issen
dash@ifi.uio.no                                                     Dag Asheim
dave@delta.demon.co.uk                                           David Godfrey
daves@home.interaccess.com                                       David Schmitt
davevw@cats.ucsc.edu                                                          
davida@lsl.co.uk                                                   David Allen
DCarter@prior.com                              Don Carter (carter@gallium.com)
dchatham@afit.af.mil                                           Dale J. Chatham
ddb@anubis.network.com                                       David Dyer-Bennet
ddj@ITC.CS.CMU.EDU                                                Doug DeJulio
deisher@enws125.eas.asu.edu                                 Michael E. Deisher
delman@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu                                       Delman Lee
detorres@bach.nosc.mil                                          Andy de Torres
dgardner@netcom.com                                               Dave Gardner
dimitri@ee.ubc.ca                                          Dimitrios P. Bouras
djrfkock@cs.ruu.nl                                              Dennis de Kock
dmath@cs.wustl.edu                                               David Mathias
doughera@lafcol.lafayette.edu                                   Andy Dougherty
drechsau@icicle.winternet.mpls.mn.us                           Michael Horwath
dsavage@alpha.wright.edu                                          David Savage
dvldbg@cs.umu.se                                             Daniel Brahneborg
edmonds@cs.ubc.ca                                                Brian Edmonds
eds2@crux4.cit.cornell.edu                                        Eric Scharff
een6njb@sun.leeds.ac.uk                                            Nick Bailey
eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu                                  Erik L. Oliver
ericm@Finnegan.EE.McGill.CA                                        Eric Masson
ernst@klab.caltech.edu                                            Ernst Niebur
etlnlms@etlxd20.ericsson.se                                         Neil Miles
etrigan@cix.compulink.co.uk                           Alan Fleming - CIX Staff
ewt@SunSITE.Unc.EDU                                                 Erik Troan
Falk.Eller@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE                                Falk Eller
farmer@shire.math.columbia.edu                                    David Farmer
feinmann@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca                                 W. Richard JHANG
fled@watarts.uwaterloo.ca                                        Fled Fairlane
fpdevries@hgl.signaal.nl                                     Frans P. de Vries
ftlofaro@buddy.CS.UNLV.EDU                                        Frank Lofaro
fyoung@gssec.bt.co.uk                                             Fraser Young
gerlek@cse.ogi.edu                                              Michael Gerlek
gilbert@inviso.com                                           Gilbert Callaghan
gisli@hamilton.eecs.umich.edu                                  Gisli Ottarsson
glonnon@hpbs746.boi.hp.com                                         Greg Lonnon
gmayer@physik.uni-kl.de                               Gunther Mayer [AG Meyer]
greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de                                        Thomas Greve
grewe%ipp880.dnet@zam049.zam.kfa-juelich.de                       Thomas Grewe
grif@corsa.ucr.edu                                            Michael Griffith
GRL6732@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU                                          Gerard R. Lazo
gvr@halcyon.com                                               George V. Reilly
gw@hplb.hpl.hp.com                                             Gunther Walther
hagmanti@cps.msu.edu                                                Tim Hagman
haijo@cs.rug.nl                                                Winnie-the-Pooh
hanisch@wicx01.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de                    Matthias Hanisch
hdesiato@cs.UMD.EDU                                                 Hui-Hui Hu
herrmanm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                            Michael Herrmann
hjh@imsor.dth.dk                                            Henrik Juul Hansen
hta@uninett.no                                         Harald Tveit Alvestrand
hugh@ccss.com                                                   Hugh Daschbach
huisken@prl.philips.nl                                             Jos Huisken
ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de                                         Thomas Koenig
iimura@MicroUnity.com                                        Wallace M. Iimura
ik@superusers.dk                                               Ib Kammersgaard
ikuz@cs.vu.nl                                                         Ihor Kuz
imp@Boulder.ParcPlace.COM                                          Warner Losh
isam0732@mailszrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE                                  Isam Ishaq
Ismo.Peltonen@tower.nullnet.fi                                   Ismo Peltonen
J.S.Peatfield@amtp.cam.ac.uk                                     Jon Peatfield
jaffer@martigny.ai.mit.edu                                       Aubrey Jaffer
jak@zombie.oulu.fi                                             Jukka Karlstrom
jamesp@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                     Jim Peroulas
James_Sampson@ccm.fm.intel.com                           James Douglas Sampson
jan@gondor.gun.de                                               Jan Niehusmann
Janne.Himanka@oulu.fi                                            Janne Himanka
jem@delta.hut.fi                                                  Johan Myreen
jem@SunSITE.Unc.EDU                                             Jonathan Magid
jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu                                      travis jensen
jepstei@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                        John Epstein
jes@mbio.med.upenn.edu                                         Joseph E. Smith
jgeorge@nbi.com                                                     Joe George
jiching@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu                                      Jimen Ching
jim.bacon@tpoint.com                                                 Jim Bacon
jimdenni@ccmail.symantec.com                                        Jim Dennis
jimj@eecs.umich.edu                                              Jim J. Jewett
jmn@crown.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                 J. Mark Noworolski
jmukherj@ringer.cs.utsa.edu                                       J. Mukherjee
Joe.Klemmer@f370.n109.z1.fidonet.org                               Joe Klemmer
john@HARLIE.st.hmc.edu                                            John Stimson
jonkaare@fm.unit.no                                               Jon-K Hansen
jorn@etw.gar.no                                                     Jorn Lokoy
jstump@cs.cornell.edu                                               John Stump
julliard@di.epfl.ch                                         Alexandre Julliard
juphoff@nrao.edu                                             Jeffrey A. Uphoff
kai@khms.westfalen.de                                           Kai Henningsen
kaz@lilia.iijnet.or.jp                                            Kaz Sasayama
kbass@hns.com                                                         Ken Bass
kenf@clark.net                                                   Ken Firestone
kenny@festival.ed.ac.uk                                      Kenneth MacDonald
kew@timesink.spk.wa.us                                         Keith E. Walker
kezia@matisse.eri.uct.ac.za                             Kezia Crawford-Cousins
kielmann@server.informatik.uni-siegen.de                        Thilo Kielmann
king@cogsci.UCSD.EDU                                             Jonathan King
kk@cs.tu-berlin.de                                               Kolja Kaehler
klein@informatik.uni-rostock.de                                    Marko Klein
klemme@uni-paderborn.de                                         Michael Klemme
kubla@klopfer.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE                        \"\"Dominik B. Kubla\"\"
larsen@oes.orst.edu                                               Scott Larsen
lb43+@andrew.cmu.edu                                               Lyren Brown
lbd@crash.cts.com                                                   Lynn Dobbs
lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at                                               Otmar Lendl
levin@EBO.CI.NET                                                Levin Magruder
ljthompson@anl.gov                                           Loren J. Thompson
lmccormick@cisco.com                                            Luke Mccormick
ma92hdm@brunel.ac.uk                                          Dominic Mitchell
maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch                                     Martin Maechler
martin@osiris.cs.CSUFresno.EDU                               Martin von Loewis
martin@paule.han.de                                             Martin Kneissl
mcx@x.sax.de                                                  Andreas Thomasch
mday@park.uvsc.edu                                                    Matt Day
mdw@cs.cornell.edu                                                  Matt Welsh
michela@sci.kun.nl                                            Michel J. Anders
miguel@litio.quimica.uniovi.es                           Miguel Alvarez Blanco
mjf@clark.net                                                     Marc Fraioli
mmead@csugrad.cs.vt.edu                                        matthew c. mead
mpf@inri.com                                                         Mike Finn
msingh@mcc.com                                               Munindar P. Singh
mtk@cegelecproj.co.uk                                            Mark Kuschnir
mu@pax.eunet.ch                                                   Kurt Mueller
mwikholm@at8.abo.fi                                             MaDsen Wikholm
mwisdom@ccs.carleton.ca                                            Mark Wisdom
naddy@mips.ruessel.sub.org                                Christian Weisgerber
ncc@gensym.com                                         Nicholas Charles Caruso
newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu                                      Dan Newcombe
nigel%gamble.uucp@gate.net                                        Nigel Gamble
nils@exp-math.uni-essen.de                                     Nils Rennebarth
nk73@columbia.edu                                           Nissim Karpenstein
nyama!jose@epas.utoronto.ca                                          Jose Dias
okir@monad.swb.de                                                   Olaf Kirch
olsen@xn.ll.mit.edu                                                  Jim Olsen
oraq@cs.utexas.edu                                                 Eric Hollas
orestz@eskimo.com                                              Orest Zborowski
osborn@ae.sps.mot.com                                             Steve Osborn
ove@groovy.neu.sgi.com                                              Ove Hansen
owaddell@cs.indiana.edu                                          Oscar Waddell
paul@edgewood.portland.or.us                                      Paul Bingman
paul@topsy.demon.co.uk                                       Paul Turvey G1PJJ
pchen@mtu.edu                                                          Pu Chen
Peng.Yanming@mech.kuleuven.ac.be                                  Yanming PENG
peter@nelly.hampshire.edu                                       Peter Couvares
peterb@telerama.lm.com                                             Pete Berger
petit@lirac.ibp.fr                                                Pascal PETIT
pierre@shell.portal.com                                        Pierre Uszynski
pit@lupo.kis.uni-freiburg.de                                  Peter Suetterlin
pmelo@inescca.inescc.pt                       Manuel Paulo de Albuquerque Melo
pryser@iiic.ethz.ch                                                Peter Ryser
pwildi@SynOptics.COM                                          Patrick D. Wildi
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
R.Wells@bnr.co.uk                                                 Reuben Wells
ralf@ark.btbg.sub.de                                           Ralf W. Stephan
rayek@iesd.auc.dk                                             Torsten Andersen
rbhumbla@UCSD.EDU                                             Ravinder Bhumbla
rcsaeg@alpha1.urc.tue.nl                                        Edwin de Graaf
remisosk@forklift.mi04.zds.com                                   Tom Remisoski
rene@renux.frmug.fr.net                                          Rene Cougnenc
restrugo@netcom.com                                             Ramiro Estrugo
ric@ariadne.demon.co.uk                                        Richard Gingell
ritchiej@osshe.edu                                                John Ritchie
rob@bradco.sbay.org                                               Rob Bradshaw
rob@pe1chl.ampr.org                                                Rob Janssen
robert@par.univie.ac.at                                 Robert Mayer - Student
rockwell@nova.umd.edu                                       Raul Deluth Miller
Roger.Horner@Software.Mitel.COM                                   Roger Horner
rolf@mathematik.uni-stuttgart.de                                Rolf Schreiber
romano@pimac2.iet.unipi.it                                    Romano Giannetti
ron@draconia.hacktic.nl                                              Ron Smits
root@ilfb03.tuwien.ac.at                                     Gerhard Schneider
roshne@faerun.mi.org                                               Rod Shelton
rpa@ksr.com                                                                   
rv@cs.brown.edu                                                rodrigo vanegas
rwarnick@cscns.com                                                 Ron Warnick
S.Herbert@sheffield.ac.uk                                       Stuart Herbert
salle@amertume.ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr                                Salle Laurent
scarboro@cattell.psych.upenn.edu                               Don Scarborough
schulzke@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de                Carsten Schulz-Key
schwarzo@fourier.fmi.uni-passau.de                              Oliver Schwarz
scott@eng.amdahl.com                                          Scott Blackledge
sdh@po.cwru.edu                                                  Scott Heavner
sergeyva@acf2.NYU.EDU                                       Aleksandr Sergeyev
sfiedler@cs.arizona.edu                                        Stephan Fiedler
sheldon@iastate.edu                                                           
shyamal@seas.smu.edu                                            Shyamal Prasad
siebeck@infoac.rmi.de                                         Wolfgang Siebeck
sinkkone@cc.helsinki.fi                                        Janne Sinkkonen
skip@els.cray.com                                               Geoff Rothfuss
smitch@geog.utoronto.ca                                         Scott Mitchell
sparcom!karl@uu.psi.com                                          Karl J. Smith
spierce@tigerden.com                                            Stephen Pierce
spo@LTE.E-TECHNIK.uni-erlangen.de                                Thomas Sporer
SRK106@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                             Senthil Kumar
srp@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com                                   Steve Pietrowicz
stephan@sunlab.ka.sub.org                                        Stephan Niemz
Stephen@zmemw16.demon.co.uk                                  Stephen Parkinson
stern@amath.washington.edu                           Louis Gabriel "Ted" Stern
stevek@midnite.roslyn.ny.us                                         Steve Kann
steveo@beyond.demon.co.uk                                   Steve O'Hara-Smith
stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU                                    Wayne Stidolph
sts@wits.ruhr.de                                          Stefan T Schwingeler
stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu                                Anthony J. Stuckey
sweh.womble%spuddy.UUCP                          Stephen William Edward Harris
syy@tdat.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM                                       Sang Y. Yum
s_kemmer@ira.uka.de                                               Frank Kemmer
tandem@freeze.oslo.dnmi.no                                     Adrian Phillips
teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com                                        Andrew Tefft
tgm@netcom.com                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
tim@derwent.co.uk                                                   Tim Morley
tkerwin@morpheus.wustl.edu                                      Timothy Kerwin
tmichl@cosy.sbg.ac.at                                         Thomas Michlmayr
toman@axel.cts.com                                               John C. Toman
toobii@elixir.e.kth.se                                        Torbj\"orn Lindh
toy@soho.crd.ge.com                                                Raymond Toy
twpierce@unix.amherst.edu                                           Tim Pierce
u9219811@sys.uea.ac.uk                                            Nick Holland
UMV801@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de                                   Manfred Pflueger
UNE41C@IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de                                       Uwe Ritzmann
urlichs@smurf.noris.de                                        Matthias Urlichs
vandevod@cs.cuhk.hk                                          David VANDEVOORDE
vds7789@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com                                  Vince Skahan
ve@nils.rhein.de                                                  Volkmar Eich
veillard@mururoa.imag.fr                                       Daniel Veillard
vindvad@imf.unit.no                                               Hans Vindvad
walter@pollux.edv.agrar.tu-muenchen.de                         Bernhard Walter
wenger@isbe.ch                                                Hansjuerg Wenger
wessel@ee.up.ac.za                                             Wessel du Preez
wil@cix.compulink.co.uk                                   William Stuart-Smith
wim@hudson.es.ele.tue.nl                                                      
wlieftin@cs.vu.nl                                              Wouter Liefting
wmagro@baron.ncsa.uiuc.edu                                            W. Magro
wunderli@inf.ethz.ch                                     Martin Andre Wunderli
yngmnds!youngber@uunet.UU.NET                                  Jerry Youngberg




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