Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #823
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Linux-Misc Digest #823, Volume #1                Thu, 17 Mar 94 00:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Prepare for DOOM (parody) (Dan Newcombe)
  Re: Why "xinit:  Unknown error (errno 0):  Client error."? (Tom Griffing)
  Re: When is the next Slackware coming? (Bob Myers)
  Re: Linux 1.0 comes out on same day Apple announces new machines (Chris Kelley)
  Re: Adaptec 1542B BIOS upgrade? (Eric Youngdale)
  Re: linux oracle (Joe Portman)
  How to subscribe to Linux Journal (Bernie Thompson)
  How big is the Linux community? (zachary brown)
  Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Kees Hendrikse)
  Re: Linux Journal (Jason Conrad Sokolosky)
  Re: An idea to cut down noise   (Juha Laiho)
  Re: Prepare for DOOM (parody) (Thomas Benavides A)
  where is source of util programs? (Andy Spiegl)
  S3 928 Developers Kit? (James F Small Jr)
  Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Henry van Cleef)

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From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
Subject: Re: Prepare for DOOM (parody)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 09:45:33

In article <CMqEEq.BL3@ucdavis.edu> slouken@pennington.cs.ucdavis.edu (Whitstler) writes:
>:       Well, it looks like the Doom port to linux (and quite a few
>: other Unix's also) is well on it's way. So I thought I'd just get you ready
>: for it by saying to prepare for at least 100+ articles with such exciting
>: titles as:
>        Help!  I can't stop playing DOOM!

Ah, what the heck.  It is a .misc group.

How about:  Can I run Linux Doom under windows?

    -Dan

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From: tom@metronet.com (Tom Griffing)
Subject: Re: Why "xinit:  Unknown error (errno 0):  Client error."?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:29:56 GMT

In article <2m1474$rgs@nntp2.stanford.edu>,
Ken Neighbors <wkn@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>Nothing critical, but why does xinit exit with an error message and
>non-zero exit status?  Is something setup wrong--does it do that
>for everyone?  (I'm running Slackware 1.1.2, and I type "startx".)
>
>I even get this message when I just type "xinit" and then exit the
>xterm.
 ^^^^^

If you have an xterm running, you are already running X and 
don't need to execute xinit.  From the man page:

==============================================================================
XINIT(1)                                                 XINIT(1)

NAME
       xinit - X Window System initializer

SYNOPSIS
       xinit  [  [ client ] options ] [ -- [ server ] [ display ]
       options ]

DESCRIPTION
       The xinit program is used to start  the  X  Window  System
       server  and  a first client program on systems that cannot
       start X directly from /etc/init or  in  environments  that
       use  multiple  window  systems.   When  this  first client
       exits, xinit will kill the X server and then terminate.


       If no specific client program  is  given  on  the  command
       line, xinit will look for a file in the user's home direc-
       tory called .xinitrc to run as a shell script to start  up
       client  programs.   If no such file exists, xinit will use
       the following as a default:

            xterm  -geometry  +1+1  -n  login  -display  :0
==============================================================================

I assume that what you want to do is to set up your user
environment.  To do this, you should create and customize
your ~/.xinitrc file.

For example, here's mine:

==============================================================================
#### Merge in defaults and keymaps ####
userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
 
[ -f $sysresources ]  && xrdb    -merge $sysresources
[ -f $sysmodmap ]     && xmodmap        $sysmodmap
[ -f $userresources ] && xrdb    -merge $userresources
[ -f $usermodmap ]    && xmodmap        $usermodmap
[ -z "$MANPATH" ]     && { MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man; export MANPATH; }

#### Start some clients ####
xsetroot -bitmap /usr/include/X11/bitmaps/escherknot -fg black -bg red
xscreensaver -cycle 2 &
xterm -fn 7x13bold -geometry 80x24+2+2 &
xterm -geometry 80x25+2-2 &

#### 'exec' the window manager ####
exec fvwm
==============================================================================


Hope this helps,


-- 
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|   Thomas L. Griffing          | Consultant, Dallas Softworks, Inc.    |
|   tom@feenix.metronet.com     | (214) 352-1011                        |
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|

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From: bmyers@dseg.ti.com (Bob Myers)
Subject: Re: When is the next Slackware coming?
Reply-To: bmyers@dseg.ti.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 16:13:44 GMT


I asked Pat that the other day...

He's working on getting all of the packages together now, so i'd think
that maybe sometime soon.

-bob

p.s.  I think I'd wait if I were you...instead of loading 1.1.2 up now.

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From: cdk@bnr.ca (Chris Kelley)
Subject: Re: Linux 1.0 comes out on same day Apple announces new machines
Date: 16 Mar 1994 11:33:18 -0600

In article <CMrKpD.EAr@world.std.com>,
Lawrence Foard <entropy@world.std.com> wrote:
>In article <14MAR199417503194@rigel.tamu.edu>,
>Gerard R. Lazo <grl6732@rigel.tamu.edu> wrote:
>>I overheard on NPR that Apple announced their new line of PowerPC
>>computers today. It was touted that the prices/performance challenged
>>Intel's Pentium. I thought it was ironic, coincidental, interesting
>>that Linux 1.0 would make its debut on the same day. With all the
>>applications that can be ported to Linux, it will be interesting to
>>see how the different OS environments evolve.
>
>Now lets get Linux ported to the Power PC before Windows NT :)

[ ... ]

Yes, please :)

Maybe we should all chip in and buy Linus a PowerMac...

Cheers,
chris

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From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542B BIOS upgrade?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 03:22:00 GMT

In article <2lf8v6$oqd@universe.digex.net> philp@universe.digex.net (Phil Perucci) writes:
>Does anyone have recent experience upgrading the BIOS on their 1542B?
>My system works fine now running Slacware 1.1.2, but I wanted to upgrade
>my BIOS just to stay current.   
>
>I read in comp.periphs.scsi that Adaptec says when you upgrade you should:
>
>  1) Reformat
>  2) If running Unix, disable the BIOS.
>
>Are EITHER of these really needed for Linux?  Anyone with "hands-on"
>experience upgrading their Adaptec 1542B who cares to comment would
>really help...

        If you add a BIOS with the >1Gb firmware and the disk is > 1Gb, you may
need to reformat your drive.  I guess my reaction to this is that unless you
are having troubles with the Adaptec, you might as well save your money and
leave the BIOS alone.  The major feature that the 3.2 bios provides is the
support for >1Gb.

-Eric
-- 
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.  But I have promises to keep,
And lines to code before I sleep, And lines to code before I sleep."

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From: baron@hebron.connected.com (Joe Portman)
Subject: Re: linux oracle
Date: 16 Mar 1994 09:32:41 -0800

In article <763815342snz@hocomms.demon.co.uk>,
David MacRae <Dmacrae@hocomms.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <1994Mar14.172643@dkbfpny.com> vlad@dkbfpny.com writes:
>
>>Recently there was a thread on Oracle for linux; i tried to contact
>>Joe Portman, who recommended joining IBCS2 channel to get ver 6 of
>>Oracle, but he did not respond. The problem is i do not quite
>>understand how to join this channel.

This will get you on the IBCS channel.
echo "X-Mn-Admin: join IBCS2" | mail linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi

>Do I take this to mean that there is a port of ORACLE for Linux ??.

No, it means that work is in progress to allow commercial applications for
i386 based unix(s) to run under linux. One of the apps that is currently being
tested/run (by me) is Oracle Version 6.0.

>I'm currently having problems running CASEDES from my Linux based X
>to a Data General based unix system where all the ORACLE binaries
>are. Only the Matrix diagrammer works, all the other routines, most
>importantly the Entity Diagrammer don't work. Any clues would be
>greatly appreciated.

Hmm, sounds like the Resources for your workstation do not agree with
what the Oracle binaries want. 

In general, I have found that all X apps run fine on a Linux X-station,
as long as the app-defaults are set up correctly.

-- 
=============================
Joe Portman (Westin Hotels & Resorts)
NOTE: These opinions are my own and not those of my employer

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From: bernie@bjt105.rh.psu.edu (Bernie Thompson)
Subject: How to subscribe to Linux Journal
Date: 16 Mar 1994 18:14:43 GMT

: How does one "subscribe" to Linux Journal

Linux Journal is $19 (US) for one year anywhere in the world.  
The next issue will be an April/May issue, then monthly after 
that.  The first issue (March 1994) is 47 pages, with a paper 
cover (not glossy).   

It's a really good deal!

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    Phone: (206) 524-8338
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--
Bernie Thompson -- Internet connected with Linux via PSU dorm ethernet
                   PSU Linux WWW: http://bjt105.rh.psu.edu/www.html     

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From: zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown)
Subject: How big is the Linux community?
Date: 16 Mar 1994 08:57:21 -0500

These newsgroups are like windows into a world we can't enter.

What efforts are being made, if any, to find out how many computers are
running linux? I heard something awhile ago about sending mail somewhere
to be counted. How is that going (and how do I sign into it)?

I know that FTP sites take e-mail addresses as passwords and log all
file transfers with that address. Why not just count each e-mail address
once if it has downloaded the linux A series? If the various mirrors got
together on it, a practical estimate could be established.

I'd be interested to know how many subscriptions the Linux Journal has
received, and if they're still pouring in.

Linux, the internet, GNU, fire departments and libraries are good.

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
From: kees@echelon.uucp (Kees Hendrikse)
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:07:24 GMT

In <Mario.Eduardo.13.000C52CA@vu-wien.ac.at> Mario EDUARDO writes:

> it is very simple to determine the quality of the SCO system :
> 
> get some public domain software (gnu cpio, gnu tar, gnu sed, inn, sendmail, 
> various tcp daemons) and try to compile it. it was  a lot of work to compile 
> GCPIO on ODT 1.1.0, and because of the compatibility ODT 1 to ODT 2 to ODT 3
> it is lost time to try it on ODT 3. 

Mario, you realy should try it. You might be in for a pleasant surprise.

Also, if your experience with SCO DS stopped with 1.1, please refrain
from commenting on later systems.

-- 
Kees Hendrikse                                | email: kees@echelon.uucp
                                              |
ECHELON consultancy and software development  | phone: +31 (0)53 836 585
PO Box 545, 7500AM Enschede, The Netherlands  | fax:   +31 (0)53 337 415

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From: jcsokolo@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jason Conrad Sokolosky)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:37:44 GMT

:       Well, I received a copy last Friday and I didn't even subscribe!!!
: I think they bought the USENIX mailing list given the address that was
: used.  I'll probably subscribe now though....
: 
:                               Bill Bogstad
:                               bogstad@cs.jhu.edu

How can I subscribe to the Journal????

Jason Sokolosky
sokolosk@enel.ucalgary.ca
-- 
Jason Sokolosky
sokolosk@enel.ucalgary.ca       
jcsokolo@acs.ucalgary.ca


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From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: An idea to cut down noise  
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:56:54 GMT

jvoosten@compiler.tdcnet.nl (J.S. van Oosten) said:
>Juha Laiho (jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi) wrote:
>: UUCP point of view: Why ask from some server that may not have the
>: answer, when it takes just as much time to post the question to news and
>: wait for the answer?

>Because that will prevent millions of people seeing your question, thus
>saving a lot of bandwidth and money and reducing noise? A single connection
>or mail to a server won't disturb anyone. If you're an UUCP site, mailing or
>posting will make little difference in time.

Exactly my point. So, mail goes, and a reply may come without anything
helpful, so people end up posting anyway. So, wny even try to do
searches on some semi-AI (:-) database, when you have all the netreaders
to answer your question. Ok, I've got a pessimistic view about people, but
is seems to be the correct view pretty much of the time.


>If you're on Internet, posting will actually take longer ! 

This is true. That's why the server would probably work on the Internet.

>: Also, there's a problem with all new users: how could they find
>: information about the server before reading the groups and FAQs and
>: before posting the first question?

>Ah. That's what the FAQs are for ! They could point out that a lot of
>knowledge is stored in databases which can be accessed easily. Of course we
>wouldn't want comp.os.linux.* to disappear...

Well, but if you look at the groups at present, it seems that people very
seldom find any answers from the FAQs. So how could they find a mention
about some database server?

>: Testing your 8-bit cleanness/ISO-8859-1 charset: 9 2 3 - can you read me?
>                                                  ^^^^^
>                                                  Yeah. I see a 9, a 2, a 3

Eh? At least here they are superscript 1, 2 and 3 separated by no-break
spaces. (And yes, they're ISO-Latin1 characters)
-- 
Wolf  a.k.a.  Juha Laiho     Helsinki, Finland
(Geek Code 1.0.1) GCS d? p c++ l++ u(-) e+ m+ s+/- n- h(*) f(?) !g w+ t- r y+
"...cancel my subscription to the resurrection!" (Jim Morrison)
Testing your 8-bit cleanness/ISO-8859-1 charset: 9 2 3 - can you read me?

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From: tbenavid@ahui.dcc.uchile.cl (Thomas Benavides A)
Subject: Re: Prepare for DOOM (parody)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:54:52 GMT

Whit stler (slouken@pennington.cs.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Jayme (jaymecox@coyote.rain.org) wrote:
: :     Well, it looks like the Doom port to linux (and quite a few
: : other Unix's also) is well on it's way. So I thought I'd just get you ready
: : for it by saying to prepare for at least 100+ articles with such exciting
: : titles as:

:       Help!  I can't stop playing DOOM!

;-) ... The cure for stop playing DOOM is what you type in the game
        `idkfa' you have whit it: full armament, full armo, full keys !!! ;-)

        an ex-DOOM-playing ...
--
Thomas Benavides A.      ___   ... when men were men
tbenavid@dcc.uchile.cl  <o,o>             and
Ing. en Computacion     ( . )    wrote their own device driver ...
DCC FCFM  U. de Chile   -"-"-                  --Linus Benedict Torvalds

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From: spiegl@kuh.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de (Andy Spiegl)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,de.comp.os.linux,maus.os.linux,zer.t-netz.linux
Subject: where is source of util programs?
Date: 16 Mar 1994 16:26:54 GMT


Does anyone know where I can find the sources for (most of)
the utilities for Linux?  Like ls, shutdown, man, mount, ....

I got the feeling that some of those aren't working right on
my system.  That's why I'd like to take a look at the source,
or - if possible - get the latest version.

But I can't find anything on the usual ftp-sites. Please help!

Thanks,
 Andy.

PS: Please reply by email. I'll summarize, if necessary. Thank you.
-- 

__________________________________________________________________________
Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany
E-Mail: Spiegl@Appl-Math.TU-Muenchen.de

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: cavenewt@netcom.com (James F Small Jr)
Subject: S3 928 Developers Kit?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:16:03 GMT


Could anyone tell me how I can get ahold of the S3 928 Developers Kit?

I'm intersted in writing svga lib routines for linux
(in addition to get 800x600 to work with my crappy monitor :-)
56.3hz refresh rate bites


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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
From: vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef)
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:28:18 GMT

In article <Mario.Eduardo.13.000C52CA@vu-wien.ac.at> Mario.Eduardo@vu-wien.ac.at (Mario EDUARDO) writes:
>
>it is very simple to determine the quality of the SCO system :
>
>get some public domain software (gnu cpio, gnu tar, gnu sed, inn, sendmail, 
>various tcp daemons) and try to compile it. it was  a lot of work to compile 
>GCPIO on ODT 1.1.0, and because of the compatibility ODT 1 to ODT 2 to ODT 3
>it is lost time to try it on ODT 3. 
>
For what it is worth, I compiled the latest release of GNU cpio on my
ODT 2.0 system without a hitch.  It seems to work OK, but I don't really
see any advantages to using it over using the SCO-distributed cpio. Most
folks probably don't realize it, but the SCO distribution includes
"pax," another public domain package that handles tar and cpio archives.

I feel very strongly that any "tests" involving public domain software,
copyleft stuff, and so forth test the quality of the PD software
distribution.  Some of this code is real spaghetti code, and I think
that the GNU "configure" setup is a plumber's nightmare.  Before dumping
on SCO's devsys, go take a look at the newsgroups that handle bugs in
some of this PD software and at the newsgroups for Sun, Ultrix, AIX, and
HPUX and look at the problems THEY have with this software.  

A  little time spent with lint can reveal all sorts of exciting "hacker"
assumptions.
-- 
===================================================================
Hank van Cleef               The Union Institute  History of Science
        E-mail vancleef@netcom.com or vancleef@tmn.com  
===================================================================


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