Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #829
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Fri, 18 Mar 94 06:16:29 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #829, Volume #1                Fri, 18 Mar 94 06:16:29 EST

Contents:
  Slackware w/XF86-2.1?  Which IDE w/GW2K P90 PCI (Luke M Kaven)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29. (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM)
  HELP ME (Panos (Panagiotis G. Sebos))
  Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Keith Smith)
  Re: SCANNERS and Linux (Doug DeJulio)
  Boca multiport boards (BB-100X) (Dan Swartzendruber)
  Re: idNews: from Jay (Brad Isley)
  Re: broken crond ? (Joey Gibson)
  Re: SoftPC/Linux? (Ben Taylor)
  [1.0] Linux, Comments (Shawn Jeremye Smith)
  Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (merlin)
  Re: compiler quality (was "Reverse-engineering") (John F. Haugh II)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29. (James F Small Jr)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29. (Mark A. Davis)
  CM-206 CD ROM support [Correction] (schwendinger@delphi.com)
  Re: SUMMARY: 4port (Multiport serial cards) (Gary Barth)
  Re: Linux 1.0 comes out on same day Apple announces new machines (Daniel Z. Davidson)
  Re: SCANNERS and Linux (Thomas Faehnle)
  dvi viewer using svgalib ? (Johan Wideberg)
  X not mapping bitmaps (Tom Bielecki)
  Rehash of the "artifact" problem when running XFree on SVGA (David Wright)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shi (Bob Myers)
  Re: Effective rights in Linux/Unix (J.S. van Oosten)
  Printer Problems (Ken Kopilevich)
  BRACE YOURSELF, was Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Tim Gallagher)

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From: lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven)
Subject: Slackware w/XF86-2.1?  Which IDE w/GW2K P90 PCI
Date: 17 Mar 94 23:19:27 GMT


Two questions:

(1) Will there be a Slackware release soon that has kernel 1.0
and/or XFree86-2.1? 

(2) We ordered a Gateway 90MHz Pentium PCI system the other day,
and I am wondering whether the stock IDE controller will work with
Linux, or whether I need to special-order an ISA controller?

Luke Kaven
Center for Advanced Biotechnology and Medicine
Rutgers University

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From: trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29.
Date: 17 Mar 1994 18:50:22 -0500

sarr@citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson) writes:

>Just out of curiosity, has ANYBODY gotten the "response within 24 hours"
>that the JANA folks promised?

Just out of curiosity, has ANYBODY gotten a "response" _at all_, or is
JANA just doing business as usual? :(

Jeff Trestrail
trestrail@delphi.com
trestrab@gvsu.edu


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From: psebos@theseas.ntua.gr (Panos (Panagiotis) G. Sebos)
Subject: HELP ME
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 00:49:51 GMT


        Hi everyone... I have two questions to ask you...
1) I've installed a slck.. version of linux and I have a SoundBlaster and
   I want to use it...Is it possible...Where can I find documentation
   for installing the sound card...????

2) How can I reinstall mouse????

        Please e-mail me
        Thanx in advance

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
From: keith@ksmith.com (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 16:14:56 GMT

In article <1994Mar17.070409.934@rpp386>,
John F. Haugh II <jfh@rpp386.cactus.org> wrote:
>Try running anything that is set-UID root on SCO UNIX.  Try running any
>tools (like Shadow ;-) that "know" about the mainstream organization of
>I&A info.  Yum, yum.

What security level have you selected.  Jeeze, If you want C2 or
improved security those programs violate these security levels.  You
can't do both.
-- 
Keith Smith          keith@ksmith.com              5719 Archer Rd.
Digital Designs      BBS 1-910-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...

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From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: SCANNERS and Linux
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:33:45 GMT

In article <2m9uu7$bl3@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>,
Thomas Faehnle <s_faehnle@rz.rzmain.uni-ulm.de> wrote:
>There are also patches for M-105 scanners 
>driven thru ISA-cards with the GI1904 chip.

I have an old Mars-105 scanner that I thought I'd never use again now
that I run Linux, but when I saw this post I got excited and whiped
out the ISA card to see what chips are on it.

I've got a big chip on there labeled "GUTS GA1901".  Is the GA1901
compatible with the GI1904?  Anyone using this scanner driver with the
old Marstek Mars-105 scanners from DAK?

-- 
Doug DeJulio
ddj+@cmu.edu

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From: dswartz@pugsley.osf.org (Dan Swartzendruber)
Subject: Boca multiport boards (BB-100X)
Date: 17 Mar 1994 19:51:28 GMT

As far as I can tell, the following isn't documented in any FAQ,
particularly the Serial FAQ.  I've sent mail to the maintainer
describing the following problem.  Until the updated HOWTO is sent
out, here is a caveat which will hopefully save others from wasting
precious time and money.

The Serial FAQ mentions three multiport async boards from Boca.  These are
a 4-port (BB-1004), an 8-port (BB-1008) and a 16-port (BB-2016).  There is
support in the Linux kernel for this board and if configured and built the
right way, the board is recognized properly when booting.  Here's the fly
in the ointment though - the 4 and 8 port boards do not supports the signals
necessary for modem control, particularly not DCD.  Basically, as was
explained to me, this makes them useless, unless you're hooking terminals
to them.  What makes this particularly frustrating is that this is not
described in either any Linux documentation, or the Boca manual.  You just
connect it to your modem and it doesn't work.  Super.  The 16-port card
supposedly does, but this requires a breakout box and is significantly
more expensive.  Apologies if anyone considers this a waste of bandwidth,
but I know of at least 3 people who have fallen into this particular trap
in the last couple of weeks.

-- 

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

Dan S.

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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,alt.games.doom
From: brad@slammer.atl.ga.us (Brad Isley)
Subject: Re: idNews: from Jay
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 23:19:17 GMT

In article <1994Mar17.140941.2504@apgea.army.mil> rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>) writes:
>E. They use to post on the internet and chat with us. Now they sold their game,
>   making their money and only post too.. 1) tell us want to NOT to do, or
>   2) To say they are porting Doom to a flake unix os.

Yo.  Pinhead.  Get yer shit together before you post.  Linux is not a flake OS.
It works much better than Interactive ever did.  I'm running it on six machines
with zero problems.  Complete source code for everything.  X comes up running
fine.  Networking.  UUCP.  Everything's here except Motif, which requires a
license.  AND IT'S FREE.  So, put up or shut up.

(It's running on this machine, too)

'nuf said.
-- 
brad@slammer.atl.ga.us   (Brad Isley)   +1 404 925-9663(H)  493-2484(W)

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Subject: Re: broken crond ?
From: wjg@Creeper.Atl.GA.US (Joey Gibson)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:09:43 GMT

James Morris (jmorris@mu.apana.org.au) wrote:
||| The crond program on my system is acting strangely..
||| When I boot Linux, it sets off all of the crontabs - even
||| ones that are not due to be executed at the time.

I had the same problem, but the latest cron version 3.1 fixes it (at
least for me). You can fetch it from sunsite (I think it may still be in
the Incoming directory). Enjoy.

Joey

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____________________________________________________ |  available on request


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From: s9ubxt@almserv.uucp (Ben Taylor)
Subject: Re: SoftPC/Linux?
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:09:56 GMT

Another misrepresentation from jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II):

>In article <PDCAWLEY.94Mar11105231@iest.demon.co.uk> pdcawley@iest.demon.co.uk (Piers Cawley) writes:
>>In article <1994Mar11.014807.20715@rpp386> jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>>> It's actually called "DOS Merge" and most likely hasn't been ported
>>> anywhere near Linux.  LCC is a commercial venture and they don't make
>>> no money giving software away ...
>>
>>Yes, so? They can compile it and sell it to interested parties,
>>where's the problem?

>Have you ever tried selling commercial software in the Linux environment?
>Even a hint of the word "commercial" or "proprietary" sets Linux users on
>a wild rampage.

No one stops you from producting commercial software products for Linux.  What the
wild rampage was started was a software package that said "this is free
software, but if you make money off it, you owe me.", or something to
that effect.  Considering it was almost put into Linux, this caused
considerable distress for those who want to keep "Linux" free.  In this instance,
a case of adding a "pay" feature to a freely distributable version of
Linux was unacceptable.  Even if the "pay" feature was only for people
who were doing commerical distributions of Linux, usually on CDROM.

BTW, Several place are doing Motif for Linux, and no-one's complaining,
other than it costs a lot of money.

>-- 
>John F. Haugh II  [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
>Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ]   @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
> There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
> States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.

Ben

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From: w6f192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Shawn Jeremye Smith)
Subject: [1.0] Linux, Comments
Date: 16 Mar 1994 11:21:13 -0800

Well after all the excitement about 1.0 I would just like to make a few
comments.  After running pl15h for about a month I switched to PRE-ALPHA1.0
about 2 weeks ago.  I pulled the new gcc libs and rebuilt my kernel.  This
kernel was excellent with a vast speed improvement over pl15h that I had been
running previously.  Now when I pulled the 1.0 release I was very disappointed
in the speed of this kernel.  I found that I has less availible memory for
user processes.  I have seen other people posting about changes in buffer size
causing increased swapping.  What has happened here?  

Otherwise I must say that the transision I have seen in Linux kernels from pl14
to version 1.0 is tremendous.  Without linux I would have to fight for 
terminals in a overcrowded lab.  Thanx Linus for all the time saved.  Maybe 
we can now look forward to Linux on Power PC or Native Pentium.  

XFree2.1. This was long awaited by me as I have a Cirrus Logic card.  I was
hoping for increased speed and better dot clocks.  This has happened!  The
speed is better but it looks like there are a few problems with screen 
garbage.  Frequently on virtual desktop switches I will find lines of garbage
on the screen.  This can be easily cleaned up with and Xrefresh but it is 
annoying.  Also the original .xinitrc I was using with 2.0 no longer properly
loads resouces.  The Xmodmap call I was using no longer works and has to be
done manually??  Terminal setting in rxvts seem to be broken as backspace and
delete chars no longer get interpreted properly.  I am recompling the kernel
to try and fix this.  The rxvt problem seem to stem from the new libc -21.
Recompiling seems to solve the problem, altho remote telnets no longer 
set terminal types correctly. 

 



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From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: 17 Mar 1994 14:09:03 -0800

>Does the c compiler under ODT 3 still have optimizing bugs?

Probably not.  If it did our locally compiled code would probably have
stumbled across it by now.  Whatever rcc, cc, and icc are doing seems
to be pretty safe optimizations only.



-- 
AJ Annala, Principal Investigator, USC Neuroscience Image Analysis Network

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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: compiler quality (was "Reverse-engineering")
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 02:47:32 GMT

In article <2m9cjn$jo1@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod) writes:
>Oh, but I have to change my sentence from above: Your statement is
>_not_ just plain wrong, it's just plain cynical. Of course I get a
>fix 24 hours after it's made -- that makes 24 hours after eternity...

Sometimes a fix is worse than the problem being fixed.  Yes, the system
has the "wrong" behavior, but it is "wrong" behavior that everyone has
come to know and love.  In the case of <sys/stat.h> it's a bad prototype
that the entire system was compiled with ...
-- 
John F. Haugh II  [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ]   @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
 There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
 States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.

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From: cavenewt@netcom.com (James F Small Jr)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29.
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 21:59:01 GMT

In article <2m9rnt$h6c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> sarr@citi.umich.edu writes:
>Just out of curiosity, has ANYBODY gotten the "response within 24 hours"
>that the JANA folks promised?
>-- 
Nope, I sent them a message, and haven't received anything back from them.




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From: mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29.
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 21:16:50 GMT

Perry.Rovers@kub.nl  (Perry Rovers) writes:

>In Article <2m9rnt$h6c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> "sarr@citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)" says:
>> Just out of curiosity, has ANYBODY gotten the "response within 24 hours"
>> that the JANA folks promised?
>Nope, and no bounce either... we'll have to wait and see, but this looks
>like last time :)

Three days here... still no bounce and still no email....

-- 
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From: schwendinger@delphi.com
Subject: CM-206 CD ROM support [Correction]
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 23:46:42 -0500

OK...typos notwithstanding...does anyone know of where I might find the
device drivers for the CM-206 (double speed) Phillips CD ROM drive ?
There was a gentleman from Germany who was kind enough to write the drivers
for the single-speed version awhile back. I've been hacking away at this
older version's driver with some success but am willing to throw in the
towel for a *working* version :>) Thanks for any info !
                                    -: Jim :-

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: epgm46@email.mot.com (Gary Barth)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: 4port (Multiport serial cards)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 14:40:58 GMT

Is it possible that the STB 4COM card would fit this description? STB
makes a card with 4 16550af ports that can be configured as 4 distinct
ports, or any combination in between (2 ports on COM1, 2 on COM2, all 4
on COM1, etc.) It's priced around $170. Didn't see any mentionb of this
one.

*** Gary ***

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From: danield@nevada.edu (Daniel Z. Davidson)
Subject: Re: Linux 1.0 comes out on same day Apple announces new machines
Date: 17 Mar 1994 10:34:36 GMT

>>I overheard on NPR that Apple announced their new line of PowerPC
>>computers today. It was touted that the prices/performance challenged
>>Intel's Pentium. I thought it was ironic, coincidental, interesting
>>that Linux 1.0 would make its debut on the same day. With all the
>>applications that can be ported to Linux, it will be interesting to
>>see how the different OS environments evolve.
>
>Now lets get Linux ported to the Power PC before Windows NT :)

Too late. Several of the PowerPC based systems in the Motorola Booth at 
last fall's Comdex were Running Windows NT. Not to meniton OS/2, AIX and 
MacOS.

Daniel



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From: s_faehnl@deepsky.rz.uni-ulm.de (Thomas Faehnle)
Subject: Re: SCANNERS and Linux
Date: 17 Mar 1994 16:02:15 GMT
Reply-To: s_faehnle@rz.rzmain.uni-ulm.de

Thomas Sandlass (thomas@edgar.tynet.sub.org) wrote:

[stuff deleted]

: >1) There are patches for the GS4500 chipset. There are handhelds.
: >   Check sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/kernel/misc-patches/scanner-1.0.tar.gz

There are also patches for M-105 scanners 
driven thru ISA-cards with the GI1904 chip.

Look at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/kernel/misc-patches/scan-driver-0.1.4.tar.gz
and at tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/ALPHA/scanner/scan-driver-0.1.4.tar.gz

bye, 
Thomas.

--

==========================================================================
s_faehnle@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de                   *** Happy Linux user! ***
==========================================================================

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From: wideberg@obelix.cica.es (Johan Wideberg)
Subject: dvi viewer using svgalib ?
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 10:19:55 GMT

Hi,

Is there anyone that knows about a dvi-viewer for someone using SVGALIB,
that is *not* X-windows. 

Regards Johan


Johan Wideberg, MSc
Grupo de Transportes
Dpto. de Mecanica
E.S.I.I
University of Seville
Reina Mercedes s/n
41001 Sevilla
Spain
E-Mail: wideberg@falbala.cica.es

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From: tbieleck@tusol.cs.trinity.edu (Tom Bielecki)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.windows.x
Subject: X not mapping bitmaps
Date: 18 Mar 1994 04:30:43 GMT



For some erratic reason (in that it worked a couple days ago
with no system files changed), X wether in olvwm/fvwm or
any other window manager I might have IS NOT drawing any
bitmaps, icons are voids, when moving windows the background
root window alters colors, pop-up menus when overlapping
draw over each other, when xv or any other graphics viewer
attempts to load a bitmap or any other type of graphics media 
a black void is displayed. I'm running the XFree86 port
on linux with a Dell 1024x768 monitor and a #9GXE accel/graphics
card. Any clues on what's up here???



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From: davidw@wariat.org (David Wright)
Subject: Rehash of the "artifact" problem when running XFree on SVGA
Date: 17 Mar 1994 17:32:56 -0500

        I remember seeing a thread a while back about people having a problem
with artifacts (lines & junk left after a window is dragged/closed) when
running X using the SVGA driver supplied in Slackware 1.1.1. I was using the
Mono driver then and didn't pay any attention, but now I have an ET4000 SVGA
card with 512k (chips for 1024 ordered) installed, and I am having the
problem.

        Could someone post (or email me) the solution? Doing a screen refresh
DOES clear up the junk, but it will come back when items are moved again
(it doesn't always happen, either).

                                                        Dave



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From: bmyers@dseg.ti.com (Bob Myers)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shi
Reply-To: bmyers@dseg.ti.com
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 21:34:41 GMT

In article Rovers@di0023.kub.nl, Perry.Rovers@kub.nl  (Perry Rovers) writes:
>In Article <2m9rnt$h6c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> "sarr@citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)" says:
>> Just out of curiosity, has ANYBODY gotten the "response within 24 hours"
>> that the JANA folks promised?
>Nope, and no bounce either... we'll have to wait and see, but this looks
>like last time :)
>

I haven't seen anything yet too....

From all of the bad postings that I've seen within the newsgroups covering
"jana", one would think that there would surely be some fast turn-around
with regards to this.  Likewise, a periodic posting (2~4 times a day?) of the
amount of orders received and confirmed would be helpful for building up
their credibility.

-bob



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From: jvoosten@compiler.tdcnet.nl (J.S. van Oosten)
Subject: Re: Effective rights in Linux/Unix
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:25:18 GMT

: I know that there is a way to run a file and inherrit the 
: rights associated with the file, but I can not seem to find exactly how 
: to do it.  

What you're looking for is the (in)famous 's'-bit. Its an attribute just
like the 'r', 'w' and 'x' bits on files. It's called the 'sticky' bit,
because it "sticks" the EUID (effective userID) to the program while
running, hence changing its access and privileges. Check for example your
'smail' binary, it should have either an 's' bit on the user or the
group (the latter is safer). It replaces the 'x' letter from the attributes.

The turn it on or off, use the 'chmod' command. For example, "chmod u+s
/bin/sh", and you now have a shell that turns anyone logging in instantly to
root :-) (So don't do it !!)

: For instance I want to create a shell that is owned by root 
: and lets any user become root when it is run because it gives them the 
: effective uid of root.

Are you sure you want to do that ? Sounds like a major security hole to me.
But there already is a program to change your user ID, it's 'su'. With the
proper password it changes your UID to anything you want. Read the manpage.

: Now that I can not figure this out I am interested in general how the
: effective rights work,

*grin* Check the kernel sources. What it comes down to is that every process
has a UID (userID) that says who started up the program, and a EUID
(Effective userID), which, as it name implies, indicates the level of
privilege it has. Normally, UID == EUID, so program run with the rights you
have, bit with sticky bits this can be changed. To allow some operations,
the kernel first checks your UID, and if that's not privileged enough, it
checks EUID, and if you're still not allowed to do it: bad luck.

The separation of UID and EUID allows you to still kill off a 'sticky'
program that you started, because it still belongs to you but it can run at
a higher priv. level. If its UID would be replaced it wouldn't be your
process anymore...

Now we're on this bit anyway: I've seen some 's' bits on directories, in the
user & group field: can anyone enlighten me what function they have there ?
I know the 't' bit, which is handy in /tmp, but I can't notice any
difference while there's an 's' bit on a directory... Or is it just plain
useless ?

J. v. O.

--
Sometimes I wonder if this whole universe isn't anything more than a
simulation on a BIG computer. And they just might press Ctrl-C any time
now...
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From: kirill@crl.com (Ken Kopilevich)
Subject: Printer Problems
Date: 17 Mar 1994 23:42:55 -0800

Hi, everybody.  I have linux installed on my computer very
recently and now I have a proble with printing.  

My printer is HP DeskJet 500.  
And here is the problem :
        When I am trying to print file linux doesn't send CR to the 
printer.  So All I get are linefeeds at the end of lines.  Hence all
I can print out are the first three lines on any file
and they would look like this:

Line one
       Line two
              Line three 

And so on.  

If someone has a solution please answer by mail to kirill@crl.com
I will post the solution.
Thank you,  Ken.


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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
From: tim@cdin-1.compu.com (Tim Gallagher)
Subject: BRACE YOURSELF, was Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 14:38:39 GMT

Look out folks, this is flame material.  You've been warned.

I love those folks who flock to the side of SCO any time their operating
system is challenged.  I've been working with UNIX systems for years (SCO,
AT&T SVR4, SunOS, AIX, and more).  I have never seen a company that takes
outdated products that were given to them, and had the balls to turn around
and resell them.  After all, XENIX was originally a Microsoft/IBM product (I
never really learned exactly which).  The product was essentially dumped to a
fledgeling Microsoft affiliate known as the Santa Cruz Operation.  Their C
compiler comes from Microsoft, their propietary filesystem architecture comes
from Acer, their X window system comes from IXI, etc.  In other words, THEY
DON'T WRITE A FUCKING THING!

What they are good at is fucking up perfectly working stand-alone packages,
and giving mediocre tech support.  I have clients who, to this day, have used
XENIX 2.x with the XENIX Dev System, and have consisently gone through
upgrades through various levels of Xenix and then on up through Unix.  They've
demonstrated bugs that are still present today.  I personally have sent them
bug report after bug report.  Going from company to company, I know if there's
anything I can rely upon from SCO, it's that their bugs remain consistent, and
that with each future release of the operating system, I can count on them to
release new ones.  When you call them for tech support, what you usually get
is an "Oh-Why-are-you-bothering-me-don't-you-know-we're-Unix-Gods" attitude,
and you have to go through a ceremonial ritual with one brain-dead dweeb after
the next, requiring you to demonstrate that they know less about Unix than you
do, until you finally get an "engineer" who's "senior" enough to know what the
fuck you're talking about.  Then you'll get a "Yup, you're right, that's a
bug!" followed by the omnipresent "We'll-fix-in-the-next-release" bullshit
answer, hoping that you'll go away and not bother them anymore.

Oh, and another thing (while I'm on my soapbox), why is that we're always a
major release behind?  For instance, the current version of System V is
Release 4.  How come we're *STILL* on version 3?  The answer is licensing.
It's cheaper to be a version behind the current operating system.  Then they
charge you competitive prices with SVR4, without giving you the same
functionality.  And you thought Microsoft was ballsy!

If I had my druthers, I'd use AIX.  IBM has come full circle and cleaned up
their act.  They *finally* understand that open systems is where the market
is.

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Timothy Sean Gallagher                  tim@cdin-1.compu.com
Compudata Inc.
The fool, the mad fool that thinks my views are the same as my company's...
"I've got Premier Kissov on the line, and he's hopping mad!" - Dr. Strangelove
Save the Whales ... Collect the whole set!
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