Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #841
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Linux-Misc Digest #841, Volume #1                Sun, 20 Mar 94 12:13:13 EST

Contents:
  Linux and BSD CD-ROM upgrade. Only $20! Fast! (Roman Yanovsky  roman@btr.com)
  Re: Boca multiport boards (BB-100X) (Jake Buchholz)
  Gateway's STB W32P vs. ATI PCI cards for Linux/Xfree (Bartley C. Conrath)
  HELP! disk full->e2fsck fails (auersperg@apap4.pap.univie.ac.at)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  Re: [SOLUTION] Mosaic 2.2 with FORMS? (Arjan de Vet)
  Mosaic 2.2 binary with working forms available (Arjan de Vet)
  Looking for GNU Finger Patches (Karl Buck)
  Linux on PC-104? (A cohort's CoHort)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Eric Masson)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29. (Shawn Michael Ferris)
  Re: Wine status March 11, 1994 (Rob Newberry)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Doug DeJulio)
  Re: Prepare for DOOM (parody) (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: BRACE YOURSELF, was Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Brandon S. Allbery)
  Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Alan Strassberg)

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From: roman@btr.btr.com (Roman Yanovsky  roman@btr.com)
Subject: Linux and BSD CD-ROM upgrade. Only $20! Fast!
Date: 19 Mar 1994 16:09:10 GMT

        !!!! Attention, users of the Linux and BSD operating systems !!!!

There are a lot of CDROMs with Linux and BSD from different sources now on 
the market. However we at Trans-Ameritech beleive that our version is not
only a very reasonably priced product, but is also superior to others in
many respects.

The main feature of the Trans-Ameritech Linux Plus CDROM is versatility.
We offer the best of Linux - Slackware installation package that lets
the user install only the needed programs to a hard disk and a convenient
way to delete a package if need be, and also the unpacked "live" filesystems,
so that a user can run less often needed space hungry applications directly
from the CDROM.

In addition we have FreeBSD on the same disk and all the sources for both
FreeBSD and Linux.

To make it easier for you to compare our product to others, for a limited time
we offer a COMPETITIVE UPGRADE for half the price!

                        !!! HERE IS THE DEAL !!!

Send us ANY OLD CDROM Software Title in ANY condition, and we'll mail
the great Trans-Ameritech Linux Plus CDROM for ONLY $20.


* The installation is highly automated by the Slackware scripts fine tuned to
  this CDROM but leaves a lot of room for customization. This is the 
  "official" Slackware CDROM.
  The great advantage of Slackware is the ease of installing/deleting 
  individual packages and sets. Install only what you really need!

* In addition to standard device drivers in Linux kernel, support is provided
  for Sony and Matsushita (Sound Blaster) cdrom drives. Also BIOSless aha1522
  SCSI is supported (it covers Sound Blaster 16 SCSI too) and PAS16 SCSI.
  Virtually all known hardware is supported.

* To minimize the possibility of hardware conflicts many extra kernels are 
  provided for different configurations. They are usable for installation and
  normal use.

* A lot of applications are included:
  -  GNU GCC 2.5.2,  groff, ispell (GNU and international versions) 
  -  term, joe, jove, ghostscript, sc (spreadsheet)
  -  TCP/IP, UUCP, mailx, dip, deliver, elm, pine, smail, cnews, nn, tin, trn
  -  GNU Smalltalk 1.1.1, and the Smalltalk Interface to X. (STIX)
  -  X applications:
        X11 ghostscript, libgr13, seyon, workman, xfilemanager
        xv 3.00, GNU chess and xboard, xfm 1.2, ghostview,  X games
  -  Interviews libraries, include files, and the doc and idraw apps, 
  -  TeX, groff
  -  Ingress and Postgress databases.
  -  Multimidia: mpeg video and sound applications.
  -  Andrew. 
  -  A lot more.

  Kanji extensions are included for the first time on a CDROM and several 
  Cyrillic fonts are provided. 

* To help the first time Linux users many documentation files are provided 
  that are readible from DOS even before installing Linux.

* All the sources are available on the CDROM. The most often needed sources
  are uncompressed and can be used directly from CDROM.

* An uncompressed Linux filesystem is available for reference and disk space
  conservation. You can run programs directly from CDROM! There is a large
  "info" directory for on-line reference and many manpages.

* For hacker's reference an uncompressed FreeBSD source tree is provided.

* On the BSD side there is a full source and binary distribution of the
  "final" FreeBSD 1.0

* If you have questions or problems with installation Trans-Ameritech 
  provides free support via e-mail within 24 hours.

* We ship the same day as we get the order.


Our address: 2342A Walsh Ave, Santa Clara, CA 95051
Phone: 408-727-3883 (5 lines)
FAX: 408-727-3882
e-mail: roman@trans-ameritech.com

We accept ALL major credit cards (VISA/MasterCard/AmEX), checks, PO, money
orders and wire transfers.


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From: jake@jakesys.sol.net (Jake Buchholz)
Subject: Re: Boca multiport boards (BB-100X)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:58:09 GMT

Dan Swartzendruber (dswartz@pugsley.osf.org) wrote:
: The Serial FAQ mentions three multiport async boards from Boca.  These are
[...]
: in the ointment though - the 4 and 8 port boards do not supports the signals
: necessary for modem control, particularly not DCD.  Basically, as was
[...]
: connect it to your modem and it doesn't work.  Super.  The 16-port card
: supposedly does, but this requires a breakout box and is significantly

Could you go into more detail as to what's required with the breakout box?
(assuming it'll be possible for me to make a different cable to avoid breakout
boxes)...  I'm considering getting the BOCA 16 port board (I *THINK* I've
found it for < $200, but need to double-check), but before I invest in it, I
want to be sure I'll be able to run a bunch of modems (as well as one or two
terminals) off of it...

-- 
 |       jake@jakesys.sol.net -- Jake Buchholz       | /\  /\    /\    /~\ tm |
 | _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ | \ \/ /   / /   / //    |
 |                                                   |  \  /__ / /__ / _ \ __ |
 |  "Lunch.  It's not just for breakfast, anymore."  |   \/ \/ \/ \/ \___/ \/ |

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From: bart@solaris.mitre.org (Bartley C. Conrath)
Subject: Gateway's STB W32P vs. ATI PCI cards for Linux/Xfree
Date: 18 Mar 1994 18:32:39 GMT

It seems that currently Gateway is offering an STB W32P
PCI video card isntead of the ATI PCI card, although it still
may be possible to get an ATI.  My question: which card
is better, faster, more reliable?  Also which is better
for Linux/Xfree?
If no Xfree drivers for the STB are available in accelerated
mode, do you know if and when they will become available?

Thanks,
Bart

--

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From: auersperg@apap4.pap.univie.ac.at
Subject: HELP! disk full->e2fsck fails
Date: 20 Mar 94 11:44:54 GMT

Hi folks!

I need your help!

I ran out of diskspace when compiling a huge app (ingres). 
Since then df reported 0 ! bytes free on my partition even after I removed 
about 3 megs. 
After removing some more 4 megs I just get about 750 KB free disk space.
So I tried e2fsck but that fails with : "fsck: unable to open /dev/sda2" where
/dev/sda2 is my ext2fs partition. (I also checked /etc/fstab)

My configuration:
386/25 noname
8 Meg RAM
70 MB IDE with one partition formatted with ext 2 fs
Linux pl9

Thanks in advance for any hint
Philipp
 :-(
 

  

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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 11:03:02 GMT

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.


Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
--
Ian Jackson  <ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu>  (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk)
2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England;  phone: +44 223 64238

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From: devet@adv.win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet)
Subject: Re: [SOLUTION] Mosaic 2.2 with FORMS?
Date: 20 Mar 1994 11:48:40 +0100

In article <2mg444$mds@news.bu.edu>, Bill Heiser <heiser@acs4.bu.edu> wrote:

>How can I get FORMS to work with Mosaic 2.2 (from Sunsite)?
>When I try to type in a form blank, nothing shows up.

The Mosaic 2.2 binary at

        ftp.win.tue.nl:/pub/linux/Mosaic-linux-2.2.tar.gz

works OK with forms. It has been compiled with Motif 1.2.2.

Could people compiling Mosaic with Motif 1.2.1 please stop doing that. It
gives a buggy Mosaic executable! This Mosaic form problem is almost
becoming the most frequently asked FAQ :-(

Arjan

--
Arjan de Vet                             <Arjan.de.Vet@adv.win.tue.nl> (home)
Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands <devet@win.tue.nl> (work)

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From: devet@adv.win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet)
Subject: Mosaic 2.2 binary with working forms available
Date: 20 Mar 1994 11:54:30 +0100

In article <2mgolf$mp7@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
Michael McDonnell <michaelm@thincof.remote.ualberta.ca> wrote:

>do you have Mosaic 2.2 compiled for LINUX?  I'd love to get the binaries
>if you do.  I've had no luck compiling it.  The appropriate Makefile
>would please me just as much. :-)

Try:

        ftp.win.tue.nl:/pub/linux/Mosaic-linux-2.2.tar.gz

Works OK with forms too.

Arjan

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From: kxb@cbs.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl Buck)
Subject: Looking for GNU Finger Patches
Date: 20 Mar 1994 08:09:51 -0600

I'm looking for patches from anyone who has managed to get GNU Finger
to compile and run reliably. Thanks. --Karl
-- 
Karl Buck         
USGMRL                 
913.537.3666 (H)
913.776.2745 (W)       PGP public key available via finger.

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From: cohort@hebron.connected.com (A cohort's CoHort)
Subject: Linux on PC-104?
Date: 20 Mar 1994 05:55:04 -0800

I was wondering the feasability of putting Linux on a Megatel PC-104 embedded 
386.  Most specifically, whether there are drivers capable of dealing with the
hardware presented.
  If anyone has run Linux on the PC-104 or similar machines, I'd like to 
recieve your comments.

Spec (in the ad.  I will be contacting the company for more info):
  25 Mhz 386SL CPU
  16 MB DRAM (max on board)
  On-board SVGA (boy, can't wait to figure out if it's compat with anything)
  On-board Ethernet (AUI and 10 base-T)
  On-board SCSI/floppy controllers, 2 MB flash eprom (ram disk)
  +5 volt, 5 Watt power draw
  3 serial ports, one parallel port, BIOS, RT clock, I/O bus expansion (*huge*
connector on the side - it's beautious)

  I have set followup to mail me direct, since I read my mail more often than 
news.  If there is enough of a response, I will post a summary later.  I will
also post complete hardware specs when I get them (in the summary).

-- 
                         CoHort@connected.com
                           -----=====-----
                "Sorry - Is my Freudian slip showing?"
         "You don't have to shout - I've got 20/20 hearing!"

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:52:33 GMT

In article <JP107.94Mar19215651@kro.amtp.cam.ac.uk>, jp107@amtp.cam.ac.uk (Jon Peatfield) says:
+---------------
| > Check a "Peanuts" TV special for the most common pronunciation of "Linus" in
| > the U.S.  :-)
| 
| What has the USA got to do with pronounciation of English?
|   (for humour challenged add ;-)
+------------->8

No argument... but it's the USA types who most often get "Linux" wrong... :-)

| I'm trying to stop saying "linux" as /Lie-nux/ but it is VERY hard!
+------------->8

I find it easy to say "lih-nihks" (but sometimes "lih-nooks" --- is that
closer to correct?)  But which syllable gets stressed?  :-)

(I'm not sure I want an answer.  This nonsense has gone on long enough as it
is...)

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
"MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years
of careful development."  ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca

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From: ericm@excalibur.EE.McGill.CA (Eric Masson)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 19:31:36 GMT


Hi, now GOD really speaks on my machine 8) . I just downloaded that 
sound file Linus announced on c.o.l.a. . Maybe you already know how 
to pronounce Linux correctly but the file still might be educative
in learning how to pronounce Linus's name correctly. Sure was in my
case. 

Since the swedish version of the .au file is only 28/41 the size
of the english file perhaps we should switch everything in Linux
to Swedish. Sure can use the disk space. But like the late John
Candy in "Splash" I'll have to be watching a lot of'em swedish
films before I get the language downpacked 8).  


Salut,

Eric

-- 
=================================================================
  Eric Masson - ericm@finnegan.ee.mcgill.ca - FAX: 514 398 4470
=================================================================

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From: dg100@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Shawn Michael Ferris)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29.
Date: 20 Mar 1994 14:43:39 GMT
Reply-To: dg100@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Shawn Michael Ferris)


In a previous article, Perry.Rovers@kub.nl (Perry Rovers) says:

>In Article <2m9rnt$h6c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> "sarr@citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)" says:
>> Just out of curiosity, has ANYBODY gotten the "response within 24 hours"
>> that the JANA folks promised?

I got a pretty quick response maybe a little longer than 24hours but not
by much.


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From: rob-n@clark.net (Rob Newberry)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.386bsd.apps
Subject: Re: Wine status March 11, 1994
Date: 20 Mar 1994 14:48:47 GMT

: This would be Bristol Technologies, with their WIND/U toolkit.

Actually, I think the company was MainSoft, not Bristol.

Rob


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From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:50:15 GMT

In article <2mh3iv$feo@gdansk.iguana.com>, root <root@gdansk.iguana.com> wrote:
>Doug DeJulio (ddj+@cs.cmu.edu) wrote:
>: Not me.  When I speak English, I pronounce names with the common
>: American pronunceations, no matter what.  Louis is always "LOO-iss",
>: and Linus is always the way Charlie Brown pronounces it.
>
>Now that's really some attitude. Were you born a peasant
>or did somebody teach you how to act like one?

It's just part of the typical American outlook.

When my ancestors moved here, our family name was Americanized.  Last
semester I had a grad student from Iceland as a teacher.  When
speaking among Americans, even *he* pronounced his name differently.

It's a fairly standard practice, and it makes things easier for me, so
why on Earth should I give it up?

-- 
Doug DeJulio
ddj+@cmu.edu

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From: mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Prepare for DOOM (parody)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 20:35:53 GMT

armb@setanta.demon.co.uk (Alan Braggins) writes:

>In article <1994Mar16.162046.17116@taylor.wyvern.com> mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes:
>>   >How about:  Can I run Linux Doom under windows?
>>   Indeed, that is the whole point- running under Unix and Xwindows.....
>>   or were you refering to the product named MS-Windows?

> If you are going to be pedantic, there is no product called Xwindows.
> "Its a window system called X, not a system called X windows".

I see you want to start THAT fight again.....
-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.wyvern.com   .uucp |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: BRACE YOURSELF, was Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:47:26 GMT

In article <1994Mar19.193036.26299@rpp386>, jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) says:
+---------------
| In article <1994Mar18.172310.10200@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:
| >I dunno about that... IBM may have learned about open systems, but the reports
| >I hear from the field about AIX suggest that it is even less Unix-compatible
| 
| AIX has more "standards" brandings than you can shake a stick at.  Most
+------------->8

I was thinking in terms of maintenance and administration.  Even if a manual
administration procedure seems to work right, it tends to come back and bite
you on the next upgrade... or so the reports go.  And the command-line version
of SMIT operations is said to make the most cryptic Unix commands look
downright pellucid.  :-)

| of the complaints I hear are the AIX is neither USG or BSD.  If AIX is
| guilty of anything it is that it is too "compatible" and some of those
| compatibilities get in the way ;-)
+------------->8

Ah, yes.  I know that one all too well --- why do you think SCO's devsys has
such a bad rep?  Even with 3.2v4.1 and its devsys I find I need to keep a
heavily customized include tree around to unscramble conflicting compatibility
defines.  (But not NEARLY as heavily customized as with 3.2v2...)

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
"MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years
of careful development."  ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
From: alan@lscruz.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alan Strassberg)
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:38:51 GMT

In article <CMw4C5.1qo@wang.com>, Tom Fitzgerald <fitz@wang.com> wrote:
[snip]
>If you're looking for something somewhere between SCO, AIX and Linux, you
>should check out BSDI since it gives you most of the best aspects of all
>those systems.

        BSD/386 (BSDi) is an outstanding alternative. Rock-solid,
        commercially suported, and cheaper than one upgrade from SCO.
        And comes with full source.

        Just a happy customer.

                                        alan
-- 
=============
Alan Strassberg   alans@lmsc.lockheed.com     (408) 425-6139
Lockheed, Santa Cruz, California.

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