Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #845
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Mon, 21 Mar 94 06:13:09 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #845, Volume #1                Mon, 21 Mar 94 06:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: Wine status March 11, 1994 (Pierre Benard)
  Re: Amiga as X Terminal (Frohwalt Egerer)
  Serial port w/ high load/low mem problems (David Barr)
  Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux). (Jim Robinson)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux (Alberto S Alonso)
  Re: Slackware HOWTO problem (tim werner)
  Re: Linux 1.0 comes out on same day Apple announces new machines (CHRISTOPHER D DUKES)
  Re: tcpdump and SLIP (Mark Rosenstein)
  Is pow supposed to raise SIGFPE ? (Taj Khattra)
  Re: Installing xdm & xdm wouldn't let anyone in (Craig A. Hobbs)
  Re:  Wine status March 11, 1994T (Thomas Odorfer)
  Are r/o partitions safe agains damages? (Michael MNUK)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Kevin Lentin)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Kevin Lentin)
  Re: pronunciation of linux (Kevin Lentin)
  Re: does linux support trantor 130b? (Kevin Lentin)
  Re: Sparc vs. 486/Pentium [WAS:Re: Mail Order Linux Workstation Vendors] (Dirk Steinberg)

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.386bsd.apps
From: pierre@mksinfo.qc.ca (Pierre Benard)
Subject: Re: Wine status March 11, 1994
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 18:32:34 GMT

jkh@whisker.hubbard.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes:

>This would be Bristol Technologies, with their WIND/U toolkit.
>They've also ported over the MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes), so
>you can take your same C++ codebase under Windows and simply move it
>over to UNIX to link with WIND/U's MFC libraries and be done with it.

No, it is something new. I think Bristol didn't have the benefit of source
code. Now Microsoft is licensing the Windows source to this company 
(I also, forget the name, but it was in one of announce groups), so that
they can have Windows API available on Unix.
I think MS is starting to feel the pressure of Wine and WABI. They are
probably making this move to make sure that they are not excluded from
that market. WABI was probably just a joke to them, but now that people
are actually using it, they must be worried. Maybe they even looked at
Wine, and decided that this was going to happen with or without them. I
guess a public domain version of Windows should scare them.
But maybe this is something bigger. I read in one of the OS/2 groups that
Microsoft, after categorically denying any wrongdoing, is quietly
offering a patched patch, to undo the incompatibility between Windows 3.11,
and IBM's OS/2 for Windows. Maybe MS is realizing that letting people
run Windows apps. on something other than MSDOS is a good thing.

Pierre Benard

Pierre@mksinfo.qc.ca


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From: froh@devnull.adsp.sub.org (Frohwalt Egerer)
Subject: Re: Amiga as X Terminal
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 23:44:14 GMT

martin@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Martin) writes:

>In article <1994Mar9.122456.2764@tudedv.et.tudelft.nl>, rmabevaart@et.tudelft.nl (RAISTLIN) writes:
>|> 
>|> I have an Amiga 2000 w/5 Megs attached as a text console but I would
>|> like to know if anybody has ever tried to make it work as an X terminal.
>|> The Amiga has a stock 68000 (7 MHz) thus running BSD is out of the
>|> question ....
>|> 

[... proposal for GfxBase X deleted ...]

There also is Dagge X which should be available on your favourite AmiNet site.
If you don't know AmiNet try wuarchive.wustl.edu, which is the main site. 

This isn't really Linux specific stuff, you should ask related questions in 
comp.sys.amiga.*

Froh
-- 
Frohwalt Egerer   Drausnickstr. 36   91052 Erlangen   Germany      ///   Use
froh@devnull.franken.de     (preferred)                           ///  Linux
ftegerer@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de                       \\\///  
                                                               \XX/  ECG 210
Gummiglibber!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  -- Henning Schmiedehausen beim Karlsruhe Meeting 94


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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Serial port w/ high load/low mem problems
Date: 20 Mar 1994 17:22:21 -0500

        I just downloaded XFree86 2.1, since 2.0 wasn't working very
well with my graphics card.  I am running SLIP over a 14.4 modem
on a Dell 310 (386/20 w/ 4MB RAM).
        It seems when I run X and do heavy serial port activity
(for example if running an app remotely), the serial port hangs.
The "MR" and "CD" lights on my external Zoom modem go out, and I
end up having to hang up the phone and re-start dip.
        I'm running Linux v1.0.  I recently upgraded to patch2 with the
same results.

--Dave
-- 
"I want to be the white man's brother, not his brother-in-law."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

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From: jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,biz.sco.general
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted about SCO-unix (vs AIX/Linux).
Date: 21 Mar 1994 04:26:29 GMT

In article <2majen$6kf@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
>>$ cc -c -Ddefa -Ddefb -Ddefc -Ddefe -Ddefg -Ddeff -Ddefg -Ddefh -Ddefi -Ddefj 
>>-Ddefk -Ddefl -Ddefm -Ddefn -Ddefo -Ddefp -Ddefq -Ddefr -Ddefs -Ddeft -Ddefu
>>-Ddefv -Ddefw -Ddefx -Ddefy  -Ddefz foo.c
>>foo.c
>>fatal error C1047: limit of -D# exceeded at 'defz'
[...]
>Why don't you provide real world examples from generally distributed packages
>rather than picking at trivial limitations which don't create problems for any
>reasonably well structured application ported across numerous systems?

Well  if you take a look at compiling gnu tar on solaris2.2 you will
see at least as many -D options! :)

At least it sounds like SCO comes with a compiler, unlike SunOS 5.x
(cheap bastards that they must be, can ANYONE give me a good reason
besides greed that they left out such an important tool?)


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From: a_alonso@iastate.edu (Alberto S Alonso)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux
Date: 21 Mar 94 04:21:56 GMT

In <1994Mar20.164610.6158@rosevax.rosemount.com> grante@hydro.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:

>Rick Emerson (rick.emerson@dscmail.com) wrote:

>: 3J> I knew some one is going to post this but, I talked to christina and
>: 3J> she got over 1000 E-Mails in 24 Hrs. So you have to wait few more
>: 3J> 24 Hrs. :^)

>: BZZZT!  If this is how JANA thinks they're going to improve things,
>: they have flunked big time.  How hard is it to write a perl script
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know how hard it is, but I surely would like to know it. One of 
the things that would be nice is if someone would post or direct me on
how I can setup an automated response system, specially since  the system
in my university is crashed more time  than up.

>: that collects messages, ranks them by time received, mails a "you're
>: message #xxx, details follow" message, and when the count hits 500,
>: sends "so sorry, you're not in the magic 500, you're #xxx".  A little
>: forethought and planning is not too much to expect.

>You mean their answering those messages by HAND?!?!  I assumed that
>they would have some kind of automated reply widget running that would
>do exactly what you suggested above.  They should have expected to be
>swamped by replies -- it wouldn't have taken more that a couple hours
>to set up an automated reply.

>A friend here at work who is new to Linux asked my about the new offer
>from Jana.  I told him that they were known for missing deadlines and
>not shiping product -- but this time you didn't pay until you recieved
>the package, so I told him to go ahead and give it a shot.  

Well, after four days (or something like that) I finally got my response,
I don't know how their numbers work, but I send the reply when only 185
persons had read the article  and my number  is over 3000.

Well, hope this shows a little light in the misteries of life.

Alberto


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: thx1139@knuth.cba.csuohio.edu (tim werner)
Subject: Re: Slackware HOWTO problem
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 23:00:16 GMT

In article <1994Mar20.184616.27306@news.csuohio.edu> thx1139@knuth.cba.csuohio.edu (tim werner) writes:
>I have the distribution online on my Unix box at work, and am attempting to
>make the a1, a2, a3, and bootdisk disks so I can install from my hardrive
>at home.
>
>I un-gzipped and un-tarred these directory hierarchies, then ran unix "zip
>-r" to create pkzipped files which I then downloaded over the phone to my
>home computer.

Tim was trying to outsmart slackware.  The DOS directories need to be made
just as they are on the distribution. They will be unpacked by the
installation procedure.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

Does anyone know why slackware got so small this weekend?  It shrunk from
70 meg to 28 meg.

tw


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From: cddukes@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER D DUKES)
Subject: Re: Linux 1.0 comes out on same day Apple announces new machines
Date: 21 Mar 1994 05:37:36 GMT

I'm sure that if Linus was presented a Power Mac and adequate
documentation and absolutely no way to get rid of the machine and
make money that we would see a port :-).
-- 
"Very Pete Townshendish." "Who?" "Exactly."
cddukes@eos.ncsu.edu cdukes@nyx.cs.du.edu pakrat@vnet.ibm.com

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From: mar@actwin.com (Mark Rosenstein)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: tcpdump and SLIP
Date: 19 Mar 1994 19:15:40 -0500

Yes, I've used tcpdump on both ethernet and slip interfaces.  I had to
modify it a little to get it to display the packets correctly from the
slip interface.  I'll try to package up the diffs and post them.
                                        -Mark

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From: taj@vanbc.wimsey.com (Taj Khattra)
Subject: Is pow supposed to raise SIGFPE ?
Date: 20 Mar 1994 21:07:25 -0800


---
Linux 0.99.14
GCC 2.4.5
libm.so.4.4.4
libc.so.4.4.4
---

Sorry if this is a FAQ.

Should `pow (2.0, 100000.0)' raise SIGFPE ? I thought none
of the math functions were supposed to cause a SIGFPE for
domain/range errors.

Also, shouldn't it set `errno' ? (The man page only mentions
setting EDOM, not ERANGE.)

Thanks.

+-Taj

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: hobbsc@netcom.com (Craig A. Hobbs)
Subject: Re: Installing xdm & xdm wouldn't let anyone in
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 23:22:17 GMT

In article <2lucuj$btq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Sergey I Panov <sipan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>From: ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits)
>
>Johannes Rest (rest@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE) wrote:
>: ...
>: the subject line says it. I've installed xdm, but how do i get it running?
>: Which files must be altered? Please respond!
>: ...
>Ron Smits (ron@draconia.hacktic.nl) replyed:
>
>>In my /etc/inittab I have this line:
>>x1:6:wait:/etc/rc.x11
>>so If I do a telinit 6, this line is executed. The contents of rc.x11 is:
>>--snip snip--
>>:
>>#! /bin/sh
>>#
>># rc.6                This file is executed by init(8) when the system is being
>>#             initialized for run level 6 (which usually means X Windows
>>#             on LINUX/Pro).
>>#
>># Version:    @(#)/etc/rc.d/rc.6      2.00    02/17/93
>>#
>># Author:     Fred N. van Kempen, <waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org>
>>#
>>
>># Tell the viewers what's going to happen...
>>if [ -x /usr/X386/bin/xdm ];then
>>      echo "Starting up X Windows V.11 R.5..."
>>      exec /usr/X386/bin/xdm -nodaemon
>>else echo "/usr/bin/X386/bin/xdm is missing";fi
>>
>>--snip snip--
>
>I tryed this instead of simply putting xdm at thr end of my rc.local
>as well as plain inittab change ():
>
>> [...]
>> # BEWARE: where is your getty? in /bin or in /etc? possibly going
>> # single user.
>> c1:123456:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty1
>> c2:23456:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty2
>> c3:3456:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty3
>> c4:456:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty4
>> #c6:456:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty6
>> c6:456:wait:/usr/X386/bin/xdm
>> #
>> [...]
>
>As before I am getting: Login incorrect
>Can someone with xdm succsess story send me a list of processes that he
>have running from startup?
>What type of passwords are on your machine - shadow or normall (to be honest I 
>do not know what the differenece ).I am not 100% sure but I believe that I have
>normal passwords (Slackware 1.1.1?)
>
>All the best
>Sergey
>
>               Ron Smits
>               ron@draconia.hacktic.nl
>               Ron.Smits@Netherlands.NCR.COM
>
>/*-( My opinions are my opinions, My boss's opinions are his opinions )-*/
>/*-(                They might not be the same                         -*/
>
>
>

I'm running slackware 1.0.1 and have had the same problems with xdm.  I
got the "Login incorrect" message until I changed my password to be
something shorter than 7 chars.  Try making your password short and see
if that clears it up.  I can't verify this from a source code point of
view, but I'd bet that xdm is truncating passwords entered in.

Craig

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From: to@munich.tt.slb.com (Thomas Odorfer)
Subject: Re:  Wine status March 11, 1994T
Date: 21 Mar 1994 05:18:27 -0500
Reply-To: to@munich.tt.slb.com (Thomas Odorfer)


MainSoft Corporation has signed a license agreement to port the 
Windows API library to UNIX using Microsoft's source code. This shall
be also valid for all future Windows versions. 
I hope they don't port Microsoft's way of memory management, process
handling, DOS file name handling and the other rubbish, too. 

But look yourself:

In article <1994Mar18.192336.16561@alw.nih.gov>, suez@netcom.com (chacko kurian) writes:
|> MAINSOFT SIGNS LICENSING AGREEMENT WITH MICROSOFT
|> License makes the Windows API a "universal" standard 
|> for multiple computing platforms
|> 
|> MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., March 14, 1994 -- MainSoft Corporation today
|> announced that it has signed a license agreement with Microsoft for the
|> Windows libraries for Unix.  Under the terms of this multi-year agreement,
|> MainSoft can incorporate source code for current and future Windows
|> technology into its cross development tools. 
|>  
|> The combination of the Windows source code and MainSoft's MainWin
|> Cross-Development Kit provides a unified Windows API (application
|> programming interface) for multiple computing environments.  The signing
|> of the licensing agreement furthers MainSoft's mission to enable Windows
|> software developers to offer their applications -- at minimal incremental
|> cost -- not only to the Windows and emerging Windows NT markets, but
|> also to the large installed base of Unix workstations.  
|>  
|> "Our goal is to promote one common API for software development," said
|> Jeff Elpern, MainSoft vice president of sales and marketing.  "While we
|> reached a high level of success basing our MainWin technology on
|> published Windows specifications, our agreement with Microsoft ensures
|> that all applications ported with the MainWin Cross Development Kit will
|> be fully compatible with current versions of Windows and that we will be
|> able to offer future versions of Windows, including large and complex
|> technologies like OLE 2.0, for Unix workstations as Microsoft brings them
|> to market.
|>  
|> "Our agreement with Microsoft validates the concept of cross development
|> -- that is writing one set of source code for multiple computing platforms,"
|> continued Elpern.  "While this is an important agreement for MainSoft,
|> software developers will benefit the most because they will be able to reach
|> more potential customers with minimal extra investment."
|>  
|> The MainWin Cross-Development Kit enables software developers to
|> separate applications from the target computing platform, in effect creating
|> a "universal API" based on the most widely used development environment. 
|> Microsoft has already adopted this "single API, multiple platform"
|> approach for Windows, Windows NT and future versions of the Windows
|> operating environment.  MainSoft provides an additional target platform by
|> implementing the Windows API on Unix.  
|>  
|> "We laud MainSoft's efforts to deliver a single API for multiple platforms,"
|> said Bob Kruger, Microsoft's director of systems marketing and standards. 
|> "This enables a greater number of software developers to focus on the
|> Windows API, OLE object technology and the Microsoft Foundation Class
|> Libraries from the Visual C++ environment as the only code base they
|> need to invest in."
|>  
|> The MainWin technology is an implementation of the Windows API
|> directly on Unix.  Instead of emulating Windows, which adds layers of code
|> and slows performance, MainWin sits directly on Xlib and the Unix
|> operating system, resulting in faster computing speeds.  Performance of all
|> applications ported to Unix with the MainWin technology is equal to or
|> greater than applications written directly for the Motif API.  
|>  
|> As an added benefit, end-users of MainWin-ported applications can specify
|> whether the applications have the Windows or Motif look.  Workstation
|> users comfortable with Motif, for example, can use Windows productivity
|> tools without learning a new desktop environment.  This feature requires
|> no additional programming by the developer.
|>  
|> The MainWin technology opens up new markets for Windows application
|> developers.  Currently, very few commercial software vendors have ported
|> their successful Windows applications to Unix due to the prohibitive costs. 
|> By creating a "universal API" based on Windows, MainSoft enables
|> developers to take advantage of the huge installed base of Unix
|> workstations with little incremental cost. 
|>  
|> "The MainWin technology allows us to address the requirements of the
|> Unix market more effectively," said Bill Fuchs, president and CEO of
|> Simucad.  "With MainWin, we are leveraging our advanced development
|> work under Windows and NT to create a superior graphical user interface
|> for the Unix version of our SILOS III Simulation Environment.  Simucad
|> can now provide its customers with the same advanced design technology
|> for Windows, NT and Unix based engineering workstations.  We believe 
|> this cross-platform strategy will invariably become a major competitive
|> advantage for SILOS III."
|>  
|> "The MainWin technology also will have a major impact on the Unix
|> market," said Elpern.  "Unix users now have potential access to thousands
|> of high-quality, low-cost applications.  And this is not just personal
|> productivity tools, but also the high-end CASE, CAD and EDA
|> applications that will bring new price/performance levels to the Unix
|> market.  With the universal Windows API, a developer cannot afford to
|> write code only for the Unix market while his or her competitors are
|> efficiently developing a single code base that supports a market that is 10-
|> 15 times larger."
|>  
|> The MainWin Cross Development Kit offers tools for software developers
|> to move applications written in C or C++ for Windows to any of the
|> major Unix/X-Windows workstations, including those from Hewlett-
|> Packard, IBM, Silicon Graphics and Sun Microsystems.  The MainWin
|> technology also supports the Microsoft Foundation Class Library, enabling
|> object-oriented programming techniques and providing a degree of
|> portability from 16- to 32-bit versions of Windows.  Commercial and MIS
|> developers can now select one object-oriented environment, Visual C++,
|> and deploy the resulting single code base on Windows or Windows NT
|> platforms with Microsoft tools, and on Unix workstations, as well as X
|> Terminals, with MainSoft Tools.
|>  
|> MainSoft Corporation provides a new cross-development paradigm that
|> enables software developers to use a single code base to reach multiple
|> computer operating environments.  MainSoft's MainWin technology
|> provides a native port to Unix using the Windows API. 
|>  
|> #  #  #  #    
|>  
|> MainSoft and MainWin are trademarks of MainSoft Corporation. 
|> Windows, Windows NT and OLE are trademarks of Microsoft Corporation. 
|> All other products and product names mentioned are trademarks or
|> registered trademarks of their respective companies.
|> 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Jeff Elpern                                 883 N.Shoreline Blvd., Suite C-100
|> Mainsoft Corporation                        Mountain View, CA 94040
|> (415)966-0605                               (415)966-0600 Fax:(415)966-0613
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 

=====
Thomas Odorfer
Communications Test
Schlumberger Technologies, Munich, Germany
to@munich.tt.slb.com


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
From: mmnuk@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Michael MNUK)
Subject: Are r/o partitions safe agains damages?
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:19:46 GMT


I'm running Linux on a 486DX2-66 8M, 16M swap. Using a combination
X-windows/Emacs/gcc I brought the system to a collaps. During the
following boot e2fsck was run in 'automatic' mode and a message about
erroneous block numbers (or so) in the file crond was printed on the
screen. While correcting this the binary of crond was destroyed (can't
be executed any more). 

I wonder whether it would help to mount the root partition r/o and
leave it in this state to prevent such damages to the filesystem. Is
it possible at all in Linux to have a partition where not a single bit is
allowed to change (I would like my root partition to stay unchanged no
matter what happens to the system).

Michal

--

Michal Mnuk
Research Institute for Symbolic Computation
A-4040 Linz, Austria

Phone: +7236 3231 75
Fax  : +7236 3231 30
E-mail: mmnuk@risc.uni-linz.ac.at

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From: kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:43:44 GMT

On 19 Mar 1994 18:16:26 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Robert Sanders) writes:
> > Now don't tell me that you pronounce "Linus" with the "lin" sounding
> > like "lint"?

> Er..., that _is_ how I pronounce it, except that the i is longer than
> the one in lint.  And Linus pronounces it the same way.

> Charlie Brown and his friends are wrong!

But I gather from your internet address that you aren't a native English
speaker. That was the point of the argument. Linus' pronounsciation may be
correct but it still sounds very strange to a native English speaker in an
English speaking country. I don't see why we can't come up with a decent
pronounciation for English speakers. We do it wioth other foreign words!

-- 
[==================================================================]
[ Kevin Lentin                   |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\__/~\__/~\_| ]
[ kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au  |___/~\/~\_____/~\______/~\/~\__| ]
[ Macintrash: 'Just say NO!'     |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\____/~~\___| ]
[==================================================================]

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From: kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:45:46 GMT

On Sun, 20 Mar 1994 00:36:28 GMT, Grant Edwards wrote:

> I think we should pronounce it "lee-nooks" in order to confuse the
> largest number of people.

Well you wouldn't confuse Linus that way since that is how HE pronounces
it!
:-)

-- 
[==================================================================]
[ Kevin Lentin                   |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\__/~\__/~\_| ]
[ kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au  |___/~\/~\_____/~\______/~\/~\__| ]
[ Macintrash: 'Just say NO!'     |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\____/~~\___| ]
[==================================================================]

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From: kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: pronunciation of linux
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:47:21 GMT

On Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:52:33 GMT, Brandon S. Allbery wrote:

> I find it easy to say "lih-nihks" (but sometimes "lih-nooks" --- is that
> closer to correct?)  But which syllable gets stressed?  :-)

Linix _is_ easier to say than lih-nooks since it's pronounced naturally to
an English speaker. Just like Minix. Unfortuantely, Linux has a 'u' in it
so lih-nihks would have to be concluded as wrong. No?

-- 
[==================================================================]
[ Kevin Lentin                   |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\__/~\__/~\_| ]
[ kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au  |___/~\/~\_____/~\______/~\/~\__| ]
[ Macintrash: 'Just say NO!'     |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\____/~~\___| ]
[==================================================================]

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From: kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
Subject: Re: does linux support trantor 130b?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 06:51:38 GMT

On 20 Mar 1994 18:37:02 GMT, Michael R. Gile wrote:
> I noticed by reading the howto list that the trantor 128 is supported
> in the distribution, but that the 130b is not currently supported.
> I assume that this means that the 128 drivers won't work, and I will
> have to wait for the 130b drivers.  Since I'm not about to install 
> linux off of floppies, I would like to know if anyone knows a ball-park
> figure of when these will be available.

Read the SCSI-HOWTO. It expalins how to make the T130B work (slowly) with
the NCR5380 driver. (without recompiling)

-- 
[==================================================================]
[ Kevin Lentin                   |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\__/~\__/~\_| ]
[ kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au  |___/~\/~\_____/~\______/~\/~\__| ]
[ Macintrash: 'Just say NO!'     |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\____/~~\___| ]
[==================================================================]

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From: steinber@schoenfix.ert.rwth-aachen.de (Dirk Steinberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: Sparc vs. 486/Pentium [WAS:Re: Mail Order Linux Workstation Vendors]
Date: 21 Mar 1994 08:30:44 GMT

>>>>> "Marvin" == SW Technology <swt@netcom.com> writes:
In article <swtCMz9vz.9xJ@netcom.com> swt@netcom.com (SW Technology) writes:

    Marvin> [...]
    >>  Ok, now what about us that are looking at machines for other
    >> than X workstation usage?  I'm setting up an Internet node
    >> where the load is mainly I/O bound and is of more "classic"
    >> characteristics.  That is, I'm not really interested in
    >> tweaking the fastest screen work out the box, I'm interested in
    >> responding to serial and net I/O.  I mean I've got people that
    >> are going, "I wnat ISDN to your system, now!"  They will be
    >> running the X apps (and Windoze apps, and Macdonald apps....)
    >> and they can worry about tweaking the graphic performance!

    Marvin> For an internet node, a 485DX-50 with PCI bus will you
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is impossible unless you are willing to run the bus at half speed
(25 MHz), which certainly isn't best for fastest I/O, since PCI can
only go up to 33 MHz. Get a DX2/66 (or better yet a DX4 or Pentium66)
instead. The external clock should be 33 MHz.

    Marvin> most of your money (wait a week or two for the NCR
    Marvin> driver).

Dirk

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Dirk W. Steinberg - RWTH Aachen - Internet email: steinber@ert.rwth-aachen.de
Aachen University of Technology / IS2-Integrated Systems in Signal Processing
Rhein.Westf.Tech.Hochsch. Aachen / Integrierte Systeme der Signalverarbeitung
Templergraben 55 / D-52056 Aachen / phone:+49 241 807879 / fax:+49 241 807631
Home address: Kleikstr. 63, D-52134 Herzogenrath,Germany/phone: +49 2406 7225
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Dirk W. Steinberg - RWTH Aachen - Internet email: steinber@ert.rwth-aachen.de
Aachen University of Technology / IS2-Integrated Systems in Signal Processing
Rhein.Westf.Tech.Hochsch. Aachen / Integrierte Systeme der Signalverarbeitung
Templergraben 55 / D-52056 Aachen / phone:+49 241 807879 / fax:+49 241 807631
Home address: Kleikstr. 63, D-52134 Herzogenrath,Germany/phone: +49 2406 7225

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