Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #850
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Linux-Misc Digest #850, Volume #1                Tue, 22 Mar 94 09:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: does linux support trantor 130b? (Michael R. Gile)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29. (Trevor Goddard)
  Trying to find a jpg to gif converter (Jeffrey W. Thompson)
  Re: Term problem ... (Fled Fairlane)
  Re: DOOM for X (David I. Bell)
  Looking for color version of Slackware labels logo (Steve DuChene)
  [Q's] Resizing Linux partition and sharing swap disk with Windows (Ryan Hung)
  Any Caliper SCSI tape users out there (Owain Phillips)
  Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shi (Baranski, A.S.)
  HELP - making a read only partition writable (Paul Hanssen)
  Re: DOOM for X (Aled Morris)
  Re: Linux-1.0-inline-asm uploaded (Peter Brouwer)
  Re: Trying to find a jpg to gif converter (Marek Malcherek)
  *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
  [Q] BBS programs? (Nick Zentena)
  Newbie question: MB upgrade (Kai Leibrandt)
  Re: Mosaic 2.2 with FORMS? (Robert W. Brewer)
  eexpress under 1.0  (Carsten Hellmich)
  Any SNMP agents for Linux? (Bill Muth)

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From: gilem@litecdev.eng.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile)
Subject: Re: does linux support trantor 130b?
Date: 22 Mar 1994 02:58:05 GMT

In article <2mjg5q$gbg@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>,
Kevin Lentin <kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au> wrote:
>On 20 Mar 1994 18:37:02 GMT, Michael R. Gile wrote:
>> I noticed by reading the howto list that the trantor 128 is supported
>> in the distribution, but that the 130b is not currently supported.
>> I assume that this means that the 128 drivers won't work, and I will
>> have to wait for the 130b drivers.  Since I'm not about to install 
>> linux off of floppies, I would like to know if anyone knows a ball-park
>> figure of when these will be available.
>
>Read the SCSI-HOWTO. It expalins how to make the T130B work (slowly) with
>the NCR5380 driver. (without recompiling)
>

Oops, my mistake.  I searched through it the first time (electronically),
looking for "Trantor", instead of "T130b".  Next time I will make sure
I take a longer look.  Thanks for the help.

Mike

-- 
Michael Gile                        |               Graduate Assistant
gilem@rpi.edu                       |   Computer & Systems Engineering
"Don't Blame Me, I voted for Perot!"| Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

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From: goddard@botty.reo.dec.com (Trevor Goddard)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shirt for $29.
Date: 22 Mar 1994 07:59:43 GMT
Reply-To: goddard@botty.reo.dec.com (Trevor Goddard)


Just to buck the trend, I have received a reply. 

Trevor Goddard

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From: jwt55187@isr0148.urh.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey W. Thompson)
Subject: Trying to find a jpg to gif converter
Date: 22 Mar 1994 07:08:37 GMT

If someone could email to me a jpg to gif converter for linux I would
greatly appreciate it! Thanks,
                        Jeff Thompson
jwt55187@isr0148.urh.uiuc.edu


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From: fled@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Fled Fairlane)
Subject: Re: Term problem ...
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 08:34:30 GMT

+---- pcovell@bvsd.k12.co.us <Paul Covell> wrote:
| u0xh@jupiter.unb.ca (Chris Newton CSD) writes:
| 
| 
| >     I have tried everything... I have a supra 14.4K modem, with 
| >LAP-M, v42bis, MNP-5, v32bis, the whole bit.  The only thing is, I cant 
| >get more than 950 cps out of term (according to tmon).  I have the termrc 
| >rc set to:
| >compress off
| >baudrate 38400
| >window 8
| >timeout 50
| >escape 17
| >escape 19
| 
| >     I have that termrc on both sides.  Even when I connect with 
| >LAP-M, I only get 950.  
| 
|       Ok, the only suggestion I can give you is to compile and run
| linecheck as per the instructions.  This turned out to be my problem,
| I didn't have an 8bit connection.  Linecheck will tell you what chars
| you need to escape, which might make it work;  it completely pukes if
| any chars that need to be escaped are not.  Good luck :)
| 
| <PaC>

Also, try the following:

Put "ignore 17" and "ignore 19" in your termrc files.
When you run term on your side, don't redirect to /dev/null. This way, 
term will print it's error messages on the screnn. So try:
term < /dev/ttyS3 > /dev/ttyS3
Now you can watch to see if you have a lot of packets timing out. If you 
do, try raising your timout value to 100, and maybe lowering your window 
size. If you still have problems, try lowering your baud rate.

Hope this helps,

=O.|     fled
=O

| ____________________________________________________________________________
| |"Because the world is so full of death and horror,()  Unless you know     |
| | I try again and again to console my heart and    ()  Something I don't   |
| | pick the flowers that grow in the midst of hell."()  My words are my own |
| ------->covell@bechtel.Colorado.EDU<--------->pcovell@bvsd.k12.co.us<-------



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From: dbell@pdact.pd.necisa.oz.au (David I. Bell)
Subject: Re: DOOM for X
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 04:36:59 GMT

>EXACTLY!  This is what I was talking about: compile (or link) the
>X clients in such a way that X library calls are hardware-aware.
>You call it "download the client to the terminal", I call it
>"link with a library that accesses hardware when DISPLAY=:0.0".

I think you are all forgetting that X11 is a MULTI-TASKING window system.
Any particular client does not own the whole screen.  So you cannot just
let some random process directly at the hardware.  It doesn't know about the
window boundaries, or the movement of the cursor, or the moving or creating
of new windows, etc.  The only way this can be done right is by having it
all under control of a main process, i.e, the X11 server.

When I get to play DOOM under X11, I hope that I can run it in a nice small
window while I also edit in another window, and with an xclock showing me
the time, etc.  In other words, it must be a standard X11 application.
If you intend to somehow take over the whole screen completely for it to
access the screen directly, then (to me) that defeats the whole point of X11.
If you are willing to disallow other clients, then why not forget X11 and
just run DOOM in another virtual console using its own special purpose
graphics routines!

(Of course, you can do lots with lots of extra software.  You *could* add
synchronization calls to X11, so that before ANYTHING is changed by the
server it calls the client so that it knows about it.  What a pain that
would all be, and not an easy job to get right.)

BCNU,
-dbell-

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From: sad@tdc1.eng.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
Subject: Looking for color version of Slackware labels logo
Date: 22 Mar 1994 10:48:11 GMT

        I am looking for the color (and larger) version of the triangle
        Linux logo that is on the Slackware labels that are available
        in postscript format so I can try to colorize the Slackware
        labels to match. I have seen this before so I know it was 
        available at one time. Other wise could the person who designed
        the labels please post a color version of the labels for those
        of us with color printers. Thanks!

| sduchene@cis.ysu.edu  or  s0017210@cc.ysu.edu  Steven A. DuChene  
| Youngstown State University  | Computer Science / Math / Mech. Eng.

They all laughed at Albert Einstein. They all laughed at Columbus. 
Unfortunately, they also all laughed at Bozo the Clown. 

William H. Jeffreys

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From: rhung@physics.ubc.ca (Ryan Hung)
Subject: [Q's] Resizing Linux partition and sharing swap disk with Windows
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:25:30

I'm in the initial stages of installing Slackware 1.1.2.  Is it possible to 
resize Linux partitions (primary partition) easily, without having to wipe out 
the partition first?  I'm installing from a DOS formatted hard disk.  The 
distribution takes about 100MB, so after I install, I want to give the Linux 
partition another, say 50MB.

Also, I recall a thread sometime ago in one of the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups 
regarding sharing a swap disk with Windows 3.1.  Could someone point me to the 
correct FAQ, HOWTO, etc. (or actually tell me :-)?

                                                        Thanks,
                                                        Ryan.

     |      |The Enterprise going into warp?  | rhung@physics.ubc.ca
   --O-- <--|Or a ship blowing up? Or a star? |  or (XOR!)
     |      |...Or just 2 |'s, 4 -'s, & an O? | rwhung@netinfo.ubc.ca

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From: owain@xylint.co.uk (Owain Phillips)
Subject: Any Caliper SCSI tape users out there
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 11:21:28 GMT



Does anyone know of any problems running SCSI Caliper tape drives?

I have a Caliper CP320 and Future Domain 950 based controller in my
system; the Caliper being at target 2.

When I Go to do a 'tar' the following happens...

        The tape starts running looks as if device is writing then...
        tar: can't write to /drv/st0: i/o error
        Kernel panic: EXT2-FS panic (device 8/2):
        ext2_write_inode: unable to read i-node block.

System is then dead!!!

are there known problems with the Caliper drives? Does someone have a
Kernel fix?


Would be grateful for any pointers.
Thanks,
Owain.


Sorry for posting to misc, but had no response from help.
Owain.
-- 

-- 
Owain Phillips                                  tel: +44 908 222112
Xylogics International Ltd                      fax: +44 908 222115

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From: v922215@si.hhs.nl (Baranski, A.S.)
Subject: Re: NEW PRODUCT : 3 Linux CD's and a T-Shi
Reply-To: v922215@si.hhs.nl
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:59:50 GMT

In article ba9@decuk.uvo.dec.com, goddard@botty.reo.dec.com (Trevor Goddard) writes:
>
>Just to buck the trend, I have received a reply. 
>
>Trevor Goddard


What cd's and t-shirt


SU Antoni



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From: phanssen@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Paul Hanssen)
Subject: HELP - making a read only partition writable
Date: 22 Mar 1994 11:28:30 GMT


Help!

I have somehow made my main linux partition READ-ONLY 
and so I cannot write anything to it 
i.e. nothing will work as the system won't allow writing of files


If I try to change /etc/lilo/config to read-write 
I cant save it as it won't let me write the file 

Can anybody please help me 


Paul (Desparate)


--
Paul Hanssen   
phanssen@tartarus.uwa.oz.au     
paulh@maths.uwa.oz.au     



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From: aledm@relay-europe.ps.net (Aled Morris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.apps
Subject: Re: DOOM for X
Date: 22 Mar 1994 11:56:07 GMT

In article <hastyCn145r.E4t@netcom.com> hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes:

>>>If X terminals aren't cheaper than workstations, the motivation for using
>>>them becomes *very* weak.
>>
>>They ARE cheaper than "workstations", first in the hardware cost, but as
>>I just said above, companies typically will spend at least the cost of the
>>hardware in maintenance and support services for workstations (or clones)
>>each year.  Xterminals have a huge advantage in this area.
>
>Well you can have PC **color** workstations which are cheaper and faster
>than most or all X-terminals. For less than $3000 you can have 
>a PC workstation with a Sony 17" capable of 1600x1200. As for maintenance
>there are PC companies which provide on-site support (cheap).

Don't worry, Amancio, no one is going to take your PC away and give
you an X terminal onto some timeshare nightmare managed by morons to
which you don't have the root password.

HOWEVER, I wouldn't give PCs to the majority of my users on the
grounds that they wouldn't know the first thing about managing them
themselves, they wouldn't like the big boxes with loud fans and hard
disks, and I haven't got the time to go round explaining to them not
to boot DOS floppies.  I like the off-the-shelf simplicity of X
terminals, it lets me concentrate on the hard jobs.

Aled Morris
networks manager
--
aledm@relay-europe.ps.net  |  tel +44 81 476 2212
Perot Systems Europe Ltd.  |  fax +44 81 476 2419

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From: pb@idca.tds.philips.nl (Peter Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Linux-1.0-inline-asm uploaded
Date: 22 Mar 94 11:17:45 GMT
Reply-To: pb@idca.tds.philips.nl (Peter Brouwer)

In <1994Mar21.163615.2318@cs.cornell.edu> VIGNANI%MSIE03%CRFV2@CSPCLU.CSP.IT writes:

>Hi Linuxers.
>We have uploaded lx10inline.tgz on sunsite. It is a set of patches for 1.0
>kernel (and maybe 0.99.15) for speeding up and optimizing some code sequen-
>ces used by the kernel, notably those in /linux/include/linux/string.h.

>The purpose of these patches is:

> 1) speed up some code sequences which are inefficient on the i486
>    and pentium compared to the i386. In particular, the string move
>    instructions (movsb,lodsb,stosb) are slower on the new processors.
>    The gain in speed is about 20-30% on the single functions; on the
>    whole kernel it is much difficult to measure, but certainly smaller
>    and not normally noticeable.
> 2) help gcc performing a better register allocation and produce smaller
>    code, as a consequence of avoiding as much as possible any
>    instruction which force register use (lods,stos,movs,loop); this
>    allows replacing the "c","S","D"... asm constraints with the more
>    general forms "q" and "r", letting gcc choose the best register
>    placement strategy.
> 3) fix the behaviour of the functions in string.h, which are now
>    ANSI-compliant.


>Many thanks to Linus Torvalds for his useful suggestions.

Are there plans to add these updates to the basic linux distributions, if not
is there a reason why these updates cannot be migrated in the linux kernel
release?



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From: marekki@unix-ag.uni-kl.de (Marek Malcherek)
Subject: Re: Trying to find a jpg to gif converter
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 11:36:31 GMT

hi!

Jeffrey W. Thompson (jwt55187@isr0148.urh.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: If someone could email to me a jpg to gif converter for linux I would
: greatly appreciate it! Thanks,
:                         Jeff Thompson
: jwt55187@isr0148.urh.uiuc.edu

i use pbm+. it's a converter for very much graphic formats. you find
that on the sunsite.

greetings from germany.

Marek Malcherek


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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 11:03:01 GMT

Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
which groups you should read and post to.

Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
hierarchy.  See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.

If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
from another Linux FTP site.  It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.

In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.

Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
comp.os.linux.misc.

Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.

Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.


Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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Subject: [Q] BBS programs?
From: nick.zentena@canrem.com (Nick Zentena)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 94 16:05:00 -0400



        Does anybody know if any BBS programs exist for Linux? If so were?
        Email is likely best.
        Thanks
        Nick

======================================================
Nick Zentena
nick.zentena@canrem.com [should work-)]
zen@hophead.north.net [best bet]
        Canned Draught? Is that like frugal politicans?
=======================================================

 * I don't need no stinking corn in my Beer!
---
 * RoseReader 2.10b P003334 Entered at [CRS]

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From: Kai.Leibrandt@brunel.ac.uk (Kai Leibrandt)
Subject: Newbie question: MB upgrade
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 11:30:21 GMT

I will be upgrading my MB soon, and am thinking of getting a PCI or VLB ASUS board. The thing is that I would like to keep my CPU (a 486DX50), but am unsure whether either of the above MB's will support it without adding (many?) waitstates.If anybody is running either of the above boards w/ DX50's, I would *much* appreciate any mail/thoughts/ideas/alternatives on this (no need to clutter up this newsgroup with such trivial info?).

Cheers,
Kailee.

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From: rbrewer@rwb114.rh.psu.edu (Robert W. Brewer)
Subject: Re: Mosaic 2.2 with FORMS?
Date: 21 Mar 1994 17:08:03 GMT
Reply-To: rbrewer@psu.edu

Mitchum DSouza (m.dsouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
>You need to run libc.so.4.5.8 at the least to stop this messages. Also you
>should upgrade your ld.so to version 1.4.3. If you do the latter you are able
>to stop warning messages by setting the environment variable LD_NOWARN. See
>the GCC-FAQ on sunsite.unc.edu /pub/linux/docs/faqs for more info.

However, this will not fix the forms problem.  I have libc 4.5.21,
XFree 2.1, and kernel 1.0.2 on my system.  Forms are still broken.

The only way to type into a form is by holding down all 3 mouse buttons
while you do so.  :(  Somebody said there's a bug in the current
Motif libs for linux.

-Rob
--
Robert W. Brewer  "Whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him 
rbrewer@psu.edu    will never thirst."  --Jesus Christ (John 4:14)

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From: carsten@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Carsten Hellmich)
Subject: eexpress under 1.0 
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:30:57 GMT

Hi
A week ago somebody had problems installing a etherexpress
card with pl15.
There was no reply, or I missed it. 
I have to install the eexpress driver by
myself and would like to know if there is a real problem
in 1.0 with that card.
    Thanks 
         carsten        carsten@phys1.uni-bielefeld.de
      

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From: muth@vaxwrk.enet.dec.com (Bill Muth)
Subject: Any SNMP agents for Linux?
Date: 21 MAR 94 15:51:08


   I'm looking for SNMP agent packages for Linux.  Does anyone have a
   pointer to a PD/shareware/freelfy distributable/commercial package which
   has been tested under Linux?

   Bill      

________________________________________________________________________
Bill Muth                 |
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Maynard, MA               |             the same" - Me
muth@vaxwrk.enet.dec.com  |
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